Posted on 08/09/2005 7:56:24 AM PDT by dukeman
This DU thread pretty well speaks for itself. As unbelievable the following may be, you have my word that none of these are made up:
SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Mon Aug-08-05 11:19 PM
Original message
Why the Roberts' adoption details matter.
Had he chosen to remain a rich lawyer/judge, no one would have ANY reason to care how they came to be parents or where the kids came from.
BUT...
He has set himself up to be one of only NINE people whose job it is, to determine what is legal and what is not.
If their adoption is "iffy", the public deserves to know. Millions of people are trying desperately to adopt children, and THEY have to play by the rules, and sometimes even lose children because they didn't dot all the i's and cross all the t's.
It's not unreasonable to investigate the personal/legal/financial records of someone who had VOLUNTEERED to become a very public person. If they want total anonymity and privacy, they need to NOT volunteer to become a public figure.
What if?
What happens when someone eventually uncovers something shady about the adoption of the "Latin American??Irish??" adopted children, and he's a sitting supreme court justice?
Money changed hands to get two cute little white kids so close in age.
It may have been a lawyer "friend" who arranges these things, or a payment to a willing poor woman for "services rendered". But there's no way that a couple in their 40's just all of a sudden "wants a few kids" , and just gets two dropped into their families.
spenbax (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
2. Very good point. Something kept gnawing at me when I saw those two perfect little kids. Yes, it's not about the kids....
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #2
3. I smell a transaction involving lots of $$ .......................
Hey, isn't it illegal to buy children??
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #3
5. and foreign adoption, so that records would be "fuzzy"
BUT..somewhere in their financial dealings, there HAS to be a few LARGE withdrawls
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #3
30. Only illegal if you trade them for drugs or get caught selling them
If you are rich, and have lay=wyers and ARE lawyers, you can buy all the kids you can afford.
Alcibiades (85 posts) Response to Original message
4. Right on the money
Plus, they were adopted as babies. Blonde, white babies--how much do those go for in Latin America?
REP (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #6
8. SAmericans of Euro Descent Usually Don't Relinquish for Foreign Adoption
SAmericans of European descent are not usually in the socioeconomic class that relinquish newborns, especially for foreign adoption. It's possible that the children aren't of European ancestry, but I find that a little hard to believe.
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #8
9. But a young woman might be coerced to be a surrogate for a "fee"... Someone without a lot of money, but with fair skin and an acceptable lineage could get themselves set for life by popping out a couple of cute blond babies for the rich Americano....just sayin'
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #11
12. I would be in favor of cutting slack too, EXCEPT that HE wants to be a supreme court justice.. That should elevate the investigation of possible lawbreaking to a higher level.
I didn;t even know who the guy was a few weeks ago and diodn't give a crap how many kids he had or where he got them, but HIS actions have made it MY business..and all of the citizens.
If he's willing to "cut corners" and slink around the edges of the law when it concerns his own family, he's a pretty poor excuse for a supreme court justice.
he should have VOLUNTEERED the information to the senate, as a pre-emptive measure.
REP (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
7. Why Wouldn't a "Feminist for Life" Adopt US Kids? Yeah, I know - only about 2% of women with unwanted pregnancies can be ... persuaded to relinquinish their newborns, and those 2% aren't always healthy white children and they go pretty fast. So why didn't the "Feminist for Life" adopt darker, older children perhaps with special needs? I'd like to know that, too, along with how much they paid for their perfect blond children - and who they paid. (Hint: it wasn't their mother.)
LynneSin (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #7
23. Those are great questions which is why "Feminists for Life" piss me off...
plus the fact that one of their spokeswomen, Patricia Heaton, is a freaking silicone frankenstein. I'm not begruding plastic surgury and yes Heaton has admitted to having SOME of what she claims she has had. But if you look at her before and after pictures she's had alot more than she claims.
LynneSin (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
15. I think it's important to know why he didn't get married until he was 40 and believe me, I'm a 39 year old single woman, personally if he stayed a rich lawyer I wouldn't care.
But the man could be put into position to make a decision on what I can do with my body, whom I can marry and countless other decisions that I consider personal. So I want to know what personal choice Roberts made when he's such a devout Christian and yet he wasn't out there fruitfully multiplying at age 23 (I'll let him be single through college and law school).
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #15
16. Lynne..are you accusing that christian man of "spilling his seed" or worse yet..."hoarding it"?
LynneSin (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #16
17. I may even question if he has lain down with other men and you know this is something I normally would never question
LynneSin (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #18
20. I don't know who he knows but I do know that there are very strong rumor of a powerful group of gay neo-conservatives that start with Karl Rove. Greed & Power are more important than the identity and they work hard to protect and promote their own.
SoCalDem (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #20
21. Yep.. and somehow they almost ALL end up suddenly getting married at around age 40..just when their careers would be boosted by the "family man" image.. Rock Hudson tried the "bearded marriage too..Nobody bought it either..
Ari married in his 40's
scotty
Karl (he's been married longer)
and these guys keep their family bios pretty lean
LynneSin (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #21
22. Boy, if we could get some of those 'wives' to talk the stories I bet they could tell. You know they had to sell their souls to be a part of those marriages. They're probably promised this great life provided that they ignore their 'husbands' 'late-night meetings'
theboss (1000+ posts)
Response to Original message
29. As I said before, some people are dying to be a permanent minority party
Because what the Democrats need to do is look like they are attacking children.
That's really smart politics.
Moonbat bump
The moonbats almost immediately pounced on the adoption angle. It is a measure of their desperation. The Supreme Court is their Alamo and they'll do anything to cling to it by keeping conservatives off the court. I say let 'em have "The West Wing" TV show and that's it!
I wonder what these same people had to say about Jim McGreevey.
It's just about sex!>
Oh, yes, and it's time to stop the Mean-SpiritedTM Politics of Personal DestructionTM!
I enjoyed your trademarks. LOL!
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