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The Williamsport Sun-Gazette forums ^ | July 19, 2005 | justaguy

Posted on 07/19/2005 4:32:20 PM PDT by Doug Loss

This was just posted to a web forum hosted by my local newspaper. Before I comment on it to the poster (who has posted before that he's a registered Republican, but who is a frothing liberal), I want to find out if anyone here knows anything about this. If Freepers really did this, I'm ashamed. But I have a hard time believing that, especially since DU is mentioned. In fact, as I re-read it I notice that there are no checkable or verifiable facts here. What can you all tell me about this? Here then is the post:

This is really off topic, and for this I apologize, but I'm nursing a bit of a rage, and I need to post this. A couple months ago, a voting rights advocate I was familiar with was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer (not good). I had heard that he was ill, and people were taking up a collection for him. My wife and I don't have much, but we gave what we could. About two weeks ago, sadly, Andy passed. While he was sick, I had heard some scuttlebut about people trying to impede the fundraising (that's right, impede). The people trying to stop the fundraising were from a very popular right wing website called "freerepublic". The community at this sight are almost without exception, drooling, knuckle dragging, hang on every word followers of the President, though I'd like to think they aren't "typical". They also, almost without exception tout themselves as "Christians". Today, I found out details of their little "operation". My hands are still shaking with rage, and don't really know what to do, so I thought I would post these details here, as written by a friend of Andy's. It's long, I hope you will take the time to read it, and feel free to comment. Thanks.

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When Andy knew his ill health was serious, I offered to make calls for him. I have made calls for families unable to find resources for over a decade. The public health care system nearly killed my husband, and when we were given a reprieve, I swore I'd work to help anyone to find the care they needed.

I had little real success in finding resources for Andy, except in the sense that we widened the circle of friends who helped us look. One of them struck gold, and was able to get Andy taken on as a patient by a respected doctor at Johns Hopkins. This seemed no less than a miracle to us. There are many cancer patients in the world and no matter their net worth, they are not taken on easily by doctors at Johns Hopkins.

That left only the money. Out of state patients must be prepared to pay the full costs of their surgeries in advance. So, a group of Andy’s friends set out to try to raise the funds needed, armed with only love and hope and a very narrow window in which to come up with the cash before the hospital would turn us away.

That we did indeed raise the $50,000 fee in 11 days, in small donations and in many currencies, is a measure of how beloved Andy was. None of us had the skill to open wallets, per se. This was for Andy, for his dedication to clean elections and his boundless generosity to the movement.

And at this point, the story becomes bifurcated. One fork is the progress of love and hope and generosity that he elicited in the progressive community who shook junk drawers and upended sofa cushions and did without one trip to the mall to send in a donation. They made Andy’s surgery possible. And it is true that when I announced to an incredulous employee at Johns Hopkins that we had raised the money, I’m sure she heard me say, we found Monopoly Money and would she accept that? Paypal and Amazon accounts seem not to be used very often by the Johns Hopkins clientele.

But the other fork of this story is the profound disturbance it created in the Bush right wing. I didn’t understand this until much later. But, the watchers saw our effort, watched the community response and were inspired with what can only be called hatred. Because only such a reaction could account for the vicious attack that was set into motion.

The first weekend of our fundraiser was without incident, but our jubilation at raising $25,000 in only one hundred hours must have goaded the Bush right. Before the week was out, the rumors of fraud and malfeasance crept over the internet. I began to get anonymous email demanding to know Andy’s most personal information. During the second and last weekend of our effort, the contact information I had made available to donors resulted in my email box being spammed with hate mail. I at that point ignored it. It simply never occurred to me that our effort for our friend would become a political death struggle.

I was in no way prepared for what followed. And, although I have no proof, what followed was a concerted political attack on Andy, on our progressive community, and especially on our ability to raise funds for our projects, as well as an attack on Andy’s productive work as an elections reform activist and watchdog.

What followed was a coordinated effort to block Andy’s medical care or his benefit from the medical care we could secure for him. In specific, the opposition had its agents make small donations so they could then call Paypal with allegations of fraud that froze Andy’s account. They also called Paypal, misrepresenting themselves as the hospital, to “verify” that this effort was a scam.

And it got more vicious from there. Due to the frozen funds – exacerbating Johns Hopkins' mislaying of a deposit check -- and the confusion it caused us all, Andy’s surgery date was canceled by Johns Hopkins. It was with great difficulty that we were able to persuade the doctor to be put Andy back into the surgical rotation. That cost him two weeks while he suffered from the most aggressive, invasive form of cancer.

The smears and the rumors were seeded all over the internet. Ill, on hold waiting for his surgery, Andy and the rest of us cast about trying to answer questions that were more often simply calculated accusations meant to discredit us all, meant to make Andy’s health care as difficult as possible.

Andy called me one day, happy because he’d been given a new date. Then called again, because they’d moved the date up. He was terrified, sobbing and I was caught flatfooted. Torn between trying to mind Andy’s care and trying to stop or answer the horrible accusations being sown all over our community, I had very little to offer his terror, dealing with my own.

After Andy was admitted to the hospital, the rumors turned into threats. A bounty was offered for anyone who could sneak into his hospital room. It was said he was getting a face lift. A telegram was sent just to see if it could be successfully delivered. The harassment was nonstop. We tried to shield Andy from it, with less success than we would have liked.

A day or so after his surgery, Andy called me from his bed in ICU. I picked up the phone and he began to sing to me, “Come out, come out, wherever you are.” I started crying. And when we hung up, I offered that bit of good news to our on line progressive community at the Democratic Underground. Immediately, the opposition took that as evidence that Andy was not in fact recovering from a surgical marathon. And this was their pattern. Every specific I offered to comfort the community was taken up by Andy’s stalkers and used as evidence that we were frauds.

Andy left the hospital and spent two weeks recovering at a friend’s house, learning how to eat again, learning how to move, weaning himself from the morphine that he’d needed post surgery. During this time, one of his supporters in Baltimore had her car vandalized – a message was sent. Shortly after he left to return to Seattle, his second East Coast hostess was stalked to her home and she watched as someone tried to open her front door. His supporters everywhere were systematically intimidated and all the while, they tried to keep it from Andy.

Andy then went back home to Seattle, preparing for a medical course of chemotherapy and radiation. Once he arrived, he found that an anonymous tipster had managed to get his Medicaid shut down. It took us two weeks to get him back in the system. Andy had anaplastic pancreatic cancer and was again forced to wait weeks for follow up care.

By this time, Andy’s stalkers had set up a website. It purported to be concerned that the funds for his surgery were raised fraudulently. Thankfully by this time, Andy spent very little time on line. But it wore on his core advocates who were repeatedly attacked, defamed and baited.

We were threatened with everything from the FBI to the Washington State Attorney General. And of course, because our first concern was Andy, his attitude and his care, our response had to be measured or none. On a good day, we didn’t want Andy logging in and reading that he would soon be visited by federal agents to answer for the mythical hundreds of thousands of dollars we’d supposedly raised.

As late as a week before Andy died, we couldn’t keep this poisonous campaign from him. One of the last times he felt well enough to log into to his email, he found a multipage denunciation, supposedly being filed with his state’s attorney general. He called me, not so much in a panic. Panic was no longer a speed Andy had. He called me in despair, because he could no longer fight the barrage of hatred being leveled at him. I don’t remember what I said to him but I hope it helped for a moment.

The attack from the Bush right never paused, not even through the agony of Andy’s last days. Not at all. Even the fact of his death is being disputed. Two days after his passing, his advocates are still being harassed, still receiving anonymous hate calls, “It was a scam.” The friend planning his service was visited by two men impersonating sheriffs on the morning after Andy passed. They were there to ask about fraud, they said.

Andy’s physical death has not stopped the attack, has not slowed the hatred, has not stemmed the steady stream of intimidation.

But, we’re not afraid. And we take up Andy’s work to secure our elections in his honor and in your face.

Bio: Elizabeth Ferrari is a writer and a family mental health advocate in San Francisco, CA. She is married to comedian Doug Ferrari.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: andyscam; du; fairytale; fantasy; freerepublic; garbage; johnshopkins; lies; paypal; rubbish; smellslikebullshit
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I'm not going to post anything to the forum on the Sun-Gazette website till I know what actually happened here. I'd appreciate it if no one else did till then either. Thanks!
1 posted on 07/19/2005 4:32:30 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

You should have waited for evidence besides some lefty writer to post these unsubstantiated charges here in the first place.


2 posted on 07/19/2005 4:36:31 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (When can we stop pretending that the Left doesn't by and large hate America?)
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To: Doug Loss

This sounds bizarre, and I doubt that anyone from FreeRepublic had anything to do with this, if anything here is true. The behavior described is certainly NOT the style of anyone I know on this forum, and I've been aroun dhere quite a while.


3 posted on 07/19/2005 4:36:43 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Doug Loss
... If Freepers really did this, I'm ashamed...

Well, Doug, you've been here since 2001. Have you seen anything such as this here?

I've been here since 1998 and haven't.

4 posted on 07/19/2005 4:37:10 PM PDT by FReepaholic (When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading)
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To: Doug Loss

---The people trying to stop the fundraising were from a very popular right wing website called "freerepublic". The community at this sight are almost without exception, drooling, knuckle dragging, hang on every word followers of the President, though I'd like to think they aren't "typical". They also, almost without exception tout themselves as "Christians".---

Yeah, he sounds like a republican alright ...insert 'rollingeyes' smiley face here.


5 posted on 07/19/2005 4:37:15 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: Doug Loss; eyespysomething

Ping.


6 posted on 07/19/2005 4:37:28 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: Doug Loss

It doesn't sound right to me.


7 posted on 07/19/2005 4:38:41 PM PDT by msjhall
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To: Doug Loss

For only 10 more dollars, I'm sure someone will give you the answer,


8 posted on 07/19/2005 4:38:45 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: Doug Loss

Hmmmm....Andy....DU....I recollect reading something here about him. Perhaps DU Funnies? I think I recall this was a scam or something. Anyone else have info?


9 posted on 07/19/2005 4:39:09 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Doug Loss
The people trying to stop the fundraising were from a very popular right wing website called "freerepublic". The community at this sight are almost without exception, drooling, knuckle dragging, hang on every word followers of the President, though I'd like to think they aren't "typical". They also, almost without exception tout themselves as "Christians".

Gee, he didn't have an preconceived notions or biased opinions...

10 posted on 07/19/2005 4:39:14 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: Doug Loss

11 posted on 07/19/2005 4:39:23 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: Doug Loss

I have never heard this story. In addition, I live in PA and fairly near Williamsport, which has turned from the home if the Grange to a bastion of Pannsylvania State University (It's a COMMONWEALTH) stupidity and strip clubs. Likely, it's a convienient setup.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:18 PM PDT by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Doug Loss

13 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:27 PM PDT by PilloryHillary (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: Doug Loss

Check with PJ-Comix. I think it is pretty much a given the whole "Andy is dying of pancreatic cancer" fund raiser turned out to be a huge hoax perpetrated on DU'ers. More than likely, what happened was people from DU realized they were being taken, and they complained.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:36 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Doug Loss

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1400244/posts

---Thanks for replying.

Briefly I'd like to explain why I called in the first place. Over the
past couple of years Andy Stephenson has been involved in a few
questionable donation drives that ended rather badly. In the past six
months I've received no less than 40 emails from Andy, or one of his
agents, soliciting donations for everything from lawyer fees,
unemployment relief, to medical tests.

This week the request took a rather shocking turn when the pleas for
money stated the were to receive cancer treatment.

Now if Andy in fact does require this treatment I'm not the type of
person that would try and hamper those efforts. However, there have
been several claims made that just don't quite add up. ---

Looks like he ran into problems because DU smelled something funny. But hey, if they can blame free republic for it, why the hell not???


15 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:40 PM PDT by flashbunny (Always remember to bring a towel!)
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To: tscislaw

Of course I haven't seen any such thing here. Quite the opposite, in fact. But I'm also not one to tell a guy, even a moonbat, who is obviously hurting that what he's saying couldn't be true without some evidence to back me up. I was hoping that someone else had heard about this posting he picked up and could tell me more about it.


16 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:45 PM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1438879/posts


17 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT by woofie (I Predict...... Dr. Neil Clark Warren will someday kill his wife and stop being pleasant to others)
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To: Doug Loss
The community at this sight are almost without exception, drooling, knuckle dragging, hang on every word followers of the President, though I'd like to think they aren't "typical". They also, almost without exception tout themselves as "Christians".

From the use of their inflammatory language, I would say this is a bigger pile of lies than Joe Wilson's fact finding tour of Niger.

18 posted on 07/19/2005 4:40:49 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Doctors may delay your death, but only Jesus Christ can save your life.)
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To: Doug Loss

Hmmmm....this starts out saying "My wife and I" and ends with a bio of a woman writer.......????


19 posted on 07/19/2005 4:41:01 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: Doug Loss

Bogon flux rising, captain!!!!


20 posted on 07/19/2005 4:41:57 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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