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A Polar Shift: The New Liberal Party
The Political Mess ^ | 5/13/05 | Dustin Gawrylow

Posted on 05/17/2005 12:02:31 AM PDT by ConPunk

A change seems underway in the ideological structure of American politics. It used to be if you were a conservative, fiscal and/or social, you had a home in the Republican Party; conversely if you believed in liberal interpretations of the constitution combined with a tax and spend mentality, you were more than welcome under the big tent of the Democratic Party.

Nowadays things are not that cut and dry, in fact some ideas have completely switch parties. It seems that there has been a polar shift in the ideological control of both parties. The Republican Party has completely abandoned its notions of tradition and conservatism. The GOP is now the agent of change on a global level. The party built on the notion of keeping the Union together before the Civil War is now the source of change, evolutionary and revolutionary the world over.

Under Bush Doctrine of Regrime Change fully in place, America's vision of democracy is proliferating the world over, for better or worse. The great irony in all of this is the group that has been actively opposing the notion of spreading a form of democracy across the world.

Some within the Party's ranks suggest that "some people can't handle democracy, so why force it upon them?" This is a huge shift from the party of the Kennedy's who pushed the Civil Rights movement within the Democratic Party. Who are these "some people?" If a Conservative made a remark such as that, he/she would be labeled a racist immediately. The second question "is freedom an imposition?" America was founded on the belief that freedom was given to all mankind by the Creator. The only way that freedom can be considered an imposition is if one considers the Creator to be an aggressor.

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Article is continued on my blog. FR won't let me post the whole thing.

I will take comments on this as far as structure, argument strength, grammerical, ect. Also check out my blog and my other articles on my 'blog.'

1 posted on 05/17/2005 12:02:32 AM PDT by ConPunk
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To: Americanwolf; AQGeiger; Beaker; BenLurkin; baltodog; BJClinton; big'ol_freeper; Borax Queen; ...

Blog Pimp.


2 posted on 05/17/2005 12:17:59 AM PDT by Old Sarge (In for a penny, in for a pound, saddlin' up and Baghdad-bound!)
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To: ConPunk

Message recieved and understood - conservatives told to step aside for new mutant socialism/piratism hybrid.

Got to kill us first.


3 posted on 05/17/2005 12:18:57 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: ConPunk

Great stuff, made me tired for bed instantly.


4 posted on 05/17/2005 12:24:49 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy; MeekOneGOP; TheBigB

I'm just happy to be here early.

Who can ask for anything more? Who can ask for anything more?

Newbie says, "I will take comments on this as far as structure, argument strength, grammerical, ect..."

I think I'll take grammerical, ect for 500


5 posted on 05/17/2005 12:35:22 AM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: sully777

Also nice of the author to dictate terms to you, wasn't it? ;-)
This thread is a great cure for insomnia though.


6 posted on 05/17/2005 12:37:38 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

The author is obviously young, lonely, far too full of himself, and is utterly clueless to boot. Oh yes, and boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring !


7 posted on 05/17/2005 12:40:14 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: A CA Guy; nopardons

Subject: Polar shift

He says there's the Democrats. That makes 1

He says there's the Republicans. That makes 2

Now look at a globe and you find only two poles. But he says there's a polar shift with a third party with the other two parties existing with the New Liberals. Huh?



Dagnabbit, I don't trust a man that can't handle his metaphors.


8 posted on 05/17/2005 12:55:03 AM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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To: sully777

This one started as a paper for a comparative politics class, I just started polishing it, figure I'd get some input from some like minded people...was I wrong?


9 posted on 05/17/2005 1:02:58 AM PDT by ConPunk
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To: sully777

For sure never trust anyone in favor of a third party.


10 posted on 05/17/2005 1:07:30 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ConPunk
Frankly, it stinks. Your prof may have liked it, but it isn't well thought out at all, is juvenile, puerile, hackneyed, and boring.

You imagine that you'd find "like minded" people here, HERE< in a CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL FORUM,mostly filled with adults, who know and understand politics? REALLY ? When you neither know nor understand politics nor Conservatism?

Look kid, this is a serious place and we're really NOT interested in being your wet nurse. We don't clean up children's term papers, nor help them polish their blogs. THIS ISN'T A KINDERGARTEN !

11 posted on 05/17/2005 1:09:28 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: sully777

Nor one who can't do simple math. :-)


12 posted on 05/17/2005 1:10:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

You sound like a liberal.


13 posted on 05/17/2005 1:21:41 AM PDT by ConPunk
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To: ConPunk
Little boy, it is obvious, by that snarky remark, that you have no idea what a Liberal is, nor what a Conservative is either.

Go to bed...it's past your bedtime. ;^)

14 posted on 05/17/2005 1:25:26 AM PDT by nopardons
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Ahh, Give the guy a break! At least he is trying to understand and improve.

I understand not wanting to re-write his paper for him, give a history lesson, nor even define the more basic terms more accurately...

But I read the whole thing, and he isn't completely wrong about the general idea. I've read much worse tripe from Pulitzer Prize winners.

The first thing I'd do though, ConPunk, is run it through spell check.


15 posted on 05/17/2005 1:45:55 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: nopardons
<1>Frankly, it stinks. Your prof may have liked it, but it isn't well thought out at all, is juvenile, puerile, hackneyed, and boring.

Now why don't you tell him how you really feel?

16 posted on 05/17/2005 3:45:37 AM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: ConPunk
"Regime Change" is a phony issue to use as a liberal/conservative marker. Those who debate on this basis are fools about history.

After we defeated Germany and Japan in WW II, for instance, we "changed their regimes," rather successfully I add. That was neither a conservative nor liberal idea. It was merely the common sense consequence of winning that war.

You asked for criticism. Your article gets its knickers in a twist over a nonexistent issue. Scrub it and start over from scratch.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "We Have Seen the Light"

17 posted on 05/17/2005 4:59:13 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (For copies of my speech, "Dealing with Outlaw Judges," please Freepmail me.)
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To: ConPunk
Under Bush Doctrine of Regrime Change...

Missed the spellcheck or intentional?

The Republican Party has completely abandoned its notions of tradition and conservatism.

Belief in the sanctity of life is a conservative ideal, and it is a belief far more likely to be held by a Republican than a democRAT.

18 posted on 05/17/2005 5:54:20 AM PDT by grellis (STILL the Queen of the Dorks)
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To: ConPunk

It'll get polished quite well here..


19 posted on 05/17/2005 6:02:42 AM PDT by BJClinton (Newsweak Lied, People Died)
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To: ConPunk

I'll level with you. I thought you were a troll.

If you are sincere, the harsh response that you received writing on this forum is tame compared to what you receive from any "good" editor or mentor. If you wish to become a writer you will internalize these critical voices.

Elements of Style -- Strunk and White
Writing with Style -- Trimble
From Sight To Insight -- Rackham
The Complete Works of Monty Python (you need humor and satire)


I'll leave the political critique to the wonks of the forum.


20 posted on 05/17/2005 7:36:07 AM PDT by sully777 (If anyone asks, I'm a monger-monger.)
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