Posted on 04/30/2005 7:56:30 PM PDT by Tom Jefferson
In 1957 Los Angeles County redesigned its County Seal. The Seal was designed to reflect a broad spectrum of icons of significance in Los Angeles. Among the items included on the County Seal were the Hollywood Bowl and a very small cross to signify an old Los Angeles landmark - a cross atop a hill near the Hollywood Bowl. The cross was also an homage to the missionary origins of Los Angeles, whose original name was "El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de Los Angeles de Porciúncula."
For decades the seal stood as the official seal of the County of Los Angeles - used on countless pieces of stationery, business cards and buildings. That is until the ACLU, in its untiring efforts to remove any references to Christianity from the view of the public, decided to wage a battle to remove the cross from the County Seal, notwithstanding the fact that one needed a magnifying glass to see the cross on a business card.
Last year the ACLU fired off a letter to the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors saying that the tiny cross on the County Seal violated the separation of church and state and threatened a lawsuit if it wasn't removed. The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors is made up of five supervisors, three happen to be Democrats and two are Republicans. The Board of Supervisors, despite a huge turnout by the public protesting any change in the County Seal, caved in to the outrageous demands of the ACLU and decided to remove the cross from the seal. The vote was three to two.
One doesn't need a lot of imagination to know which members of the Board of Supervisors voted which way. The Republican members of the Board of Supervisors, Michael Antonovich and Don Knabe, voted to retain the County Seal as it was and to fight the ACLU in court. There were several public interest law groups and law firms that were willing to take the case on a pro bono basis so there would have been no cost to the County. The cost to the County for changing the seal amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
The liberal members of the Board of Supervisors, Gloria Molina whose Hispanic constituents are one of the most religious groups in the county, Yvonne Braithwaite Burke, an African-American, and Zev Yaroslavsky, a Jew, all voted to remove the cross.
A compromise was proposed by a concerned group of citizens opposed to the removal of the cross, headed by David Hernandez. The proposal was to put the decision to a vote of the people. Not only would this be democracy in action, but it would give the very people who the ACLU is supposedly protecting from being confronted by the sight of the offensive cross to voice their opinion. Again, in a three to two vote, the County Board of Supervisors decided that the people could not be trusted to vote on such a weighty issue.
The ACLU and the pusillanimous liberal members of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors have obviously not read the First Amendment recently. The language of the First Amendment is pretty clear, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free expression thereof;..." It is clear that the First Amendment is only a restraint on the Congress of the United States preventing it from passing any laws establishing a national religion. It also restrains Congress from prohibiting the free expression of religion by citizens. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any other mention of religion - or "separation of church and state."
No reasonable person could possibly think that a small cross on a local county seal means that Congress has passed a law to establish a national religion. There is no legal justification, under the Constitution of the United States, or under any statute, ordinance or law for the removal of the cross. Nor could it possibly mean that the County of Los Angeles is establishing a 'County Religion'. To force the removal of the cross from the County Seal is the height of absurdity and the rewriting of the Constitution, as we have seen so often from liberal judges.
David Hernandez is now heading up a petition drive to put the removal of the cross before the voters of Los Angeles county on the June 6, 2006 ballot. To get a petition, or to sign a petition, or to volunteer your services, please go to http://www.savetheseal.net
The ACLU may have served a useful purpose at one time, and I suppose there are instances even now where the ACLU acts to protect individuals whose civil rights may have been abused. Nonetheless, the ACLU is the proponent of its own religion - humanistic secularism. No less fanatical then Wahhabi Muslims or Afghan Talibanis who have to destroy the icons of religions other than their own (e.g. the destruction of ancient Buddhist statues in Afghanistan), the ACLU is determined to do the same. Notwithstanding the fact that most Americans consider themselves religious and live a life consistent with Judeo-Christian values, the ACLU cannot tolerate any public displays of Christianity anywhere.
In my view, the ACLU is an organization which today is one of the most subversive organizations in the United States. It poses a threat to our moral and spiritual well-being. It wants to strip our spiritual heritage from this nation.
On the one hand, it protects pedophiles such as the members of the North American Man/Boy Love Association, and it opposes the Boy Scouts of America because it claims the Boy Scouts are a religious organization. In other words, it is an organization that stands as cheerleaders for pederasty while opposing those who mentor rather than rape young boys.
The ACLU was formed in 1920 by Roger Baldwin, who stated, "I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
We must oppose the efforts of the ACLU to remove spirituality from America. We must oppose their efforts to remove the cross from the Los Angeles County Seal, and we must oppose their efforts to remove other symbols of our spiritual heritage throughout the land.
Edmund Burke once wrote, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Let us not let evil triumph. Help David Hernandez and his volunteers to succeed in their efforts to prevent the removal of the cross from the seal. If we don't take a stand here and now, it will become more difficult to do so later.
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The Cross on the County SealExcerpt:The ACLU and the pusillanimous liberal members of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors have obviously not read the First Amendment recently. The language of the First Amendment is pretty clear, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free expression thereof;..." It is clear that the First Amendment is only a restraint on the Congress of the United States preventing it from passing any laws establishing a national religion. It also restrains Congress from prohibiting the free expression of religion by citizens. Nowhere in the Constitution is there any other mention of religion - or "separation of church and state."
No reasonable person could possibly think that a small cross on a local county seal means that Congress has passed a law to establish a national religion. There is no legal justification, under the Constitution of the United States, or under any statute, ordinance or law for the removal of the cross. Nor could it possibly mean that the County of Los Angeles is establishing a 'County Religion'. To force the removal of the cross from the County Seal is the height of absurdity and the rewriting of the Constitution, as we have seen so often from liberal judges.
David Hernandez is now heading up a petition drive to put the removal of the cross before the voters of Los Angeles county on the June 6, 2006 ballot. To get a petition, or to sign a petition, or to volunteer your services, please go to http://www.savetheseal.net
The ACLU may have served a useful purpose at one time, and I suppose there are instances even now where the ACLU acts to protect individuals whose civil rights may have been abused. Nonetheless, the ACLU is the proponent of its own religion - humanistic secularism. No less fanatical then Wahhabi Muslims or Afghan Talibanis who have to destroy the icons of religions other than their own (e.g. the destruction of ancient Buddhist statues in Afghanistan), the ACLU is determined to do the same. Notwithstanding the fact that most Americans consider themselves religious and live a life consistent with Judeo-Christian values, the ACLU cannot tolerate any public displays of Christianity anywhere.
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Thanks for the post and ping.
The ACLU was formed in 1920 by Roger Baldwin, who stated, "I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
We must oppose the efforts of the ACLU to remove spirituality from America. We must oppose their efforts to remove the cross from the Los Angeles County Seal, and we must oppose their efforts to remove other symbols of our spiritual heritage throughout the land.
Edmund Burke once wrote, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Let us not let evil triumph. Help David Hernandez and his volunteers to succeed in their efforts to prevent the removal of the cross from the seal. If we don't take a stand here and now, it will become more difficult to do so later.
The ACLU has done more to hurt this country than to help.
Thanks for the information re the latest Jihad Against America movement by the maggot infested ACLU.
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A DESPISING ACLU BTTT!
Put the ACLU president and the three anti-cross council members on crosses, turn the crosses 45 degrees and make it part of an Xmas display, a nutivity scene.
Remove the ACLU tax-exempt status stat--separation of pervs and state.
Remove the ACLU tax-exempt status stat--separation of pervs and state.Dang right there !!!! Dump 'em !
THE PING!The ACLU is also paid directly by the tax payer, unless that was recently changed, when they represent 'civil rights'. Roger Hedgecock talked about this a few months back, filling in for Rush. He wants it defunded. FRegards....
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