Posted on 03/12/2005 10:21:07 AM PST by donprocto
I read, with just a little more than disappointment, today's Washington Times article about Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, her political ambitions, and her "mildly pro-choice" stance on abortion.
In this, and numerous other interviews, she describes herself as "deeply religious". She points out that she is the daughter of a Presbyterian minister. In this interview with the Presbyterian Layman, she describes herself as an, “all-over-the-map Republican” and “almost shockingly libertarian” on other issues.
Lest the reader be misled, there is more than one Presbyterian church. The one which claims Dr. Rice as one of it's own is none other than the Presbyterian Church (USA), which makes the following statement about abortion:
In other words, they are pro-choice. They are also embroiled in a controversy over whether or not they should ordain active, practicing homosexuals to ministry. In this article, they state that the Bible has errors in it.". . . There is [both] agreement and disagreement on the basic issue of abortion. The committee [on problem pregnancies and abortion] agreed that there are no biblical texts that speak expressly to the topic of abortion, but that taken in their totality the Holy Scriptures are filled with messages that advocate respect for the woman and child before and after birth. Therefore the Presbyterian Church (USA) encourages an atmosphere of open debate and mutual respect for a variety of opinions concerning the issues related to problem pregnancies and abortion."
As to her quote about being shockingly "libertarian", here's the definition of that word, "One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state. One who believes in free will."
So now we know that, upon further inspection, Dr. Rice's 'deeply religious' beliefs are grounded in one of the most liberal protestant denominations, one which doesn't even believe that it's own guidebook (the Bible) is infallible. We also know that she believes in individual rights.
Unless you're an unborn child.
Needless to say, the Republicans are afraid of Hillary Clinton, already shape shifting as she re-invents herself for her 2008 presidential campaign. This is a party which has allowed itself to be pulled over to the left, state by state, and now has little more to offer than the hope of better Supreme Court nominees.
Almost every liberal candidate has talent, personality, intellect, and energy. Until fairly recently, conservatives in this country recognized that, without a strong moral foundation, these things are not enough. Miss Rice's brand of religiosity seems to have something in common with modern day abortion clinics, "They look beautiful on the outside. But on the inside they are full of the bones of the dead."
Is this what you really want?
Look, if you are one of those Conservatives who will abstain from voting for Rice, you very will might end up with Hillary. Honestly, how can you abstain when the end result might be a Socialist?
That is not what Rice said. She left it a lot more wide open.
Most Americans are mildly pro-choice.
You can marginalize youself or not.
Keep this stance and you will have no say on anything.
Check out this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1361535/posts
If Rush Limbaugh is saying he would back MCLAIN over Hillary, then what does that say about Rice?
Who me?
Read what I typed.
I am with you on that. 100%.
Her position is that abortion should not be used as a form of birth control. She supports paretnal notification and a ban on partial birth.
Please show me where Bush differs with her.
We're being pulled in that direction now anyway - and Republicans control the government. The problem is, in order to get more Republicans elected, we are settling for more liberal candidates on the local level. Ehrlich, Bloomburg, Schwarzenegger - there are more - all Republicans, and all liberals. Where do we draw the line?
Me too. However politics aside, the Presbyterian church hasn't exactly been the shining star of religion in the last few decades IMO.
After all they financially supported Angela Davis in her defense at trial and support the gay agenda financially today.
With regards from a former Presbyterian.
STILL, I agree, when it comes to politics my hope is that Condi would win hands down against the Hildabeast!
What part of the word 'libertarian' are you misunderstanding? Bush didn't say that.
I would vote for McCain over Rice (that sounds funny...McCain over Rice) because his public record and his voting record has been solidly pro-life.
he can't. it wouldnt support his rant (or his blog hits) if he had to research it anyway.....
I can live with that.
LOL! I was here looking for some stimulating conversation. If I wanted you at my blog, I wouldn't have posted my rant here for your convenience. Come on people. Blast my positions all you want. Don't question my motives.
You are going entirely off of the deep end with that one.
I know Abortion is important, but the President, regardless of who it is, can't affect it one way or the other that much. A President (especially with her husband as the head of the UN) could affect a significant and traumatic change in everything we know and hold dear. Just remember that as you rant and rant and rant please.
McCain is much much much worse of a choice than Rice and only marginally better than Clinton.
I think Hillary in the white house would cause the most conservative among us to long for the days of her husband. And that's bad.
This is false. I heard President Bush state that his goal is to protect every innocent life in the law. I heard him say that at the last 4 Marches for Life in DC on the telephone.
That clearly would not be Rice's goal.
Stop dissembling.
LOL
you just said you would support a media whore like McCain over Rice. Your rant is senseless.
I will just ignore you from now on.
Non Sequiter with a vieled Ad Hominem.
All I'm asking is that you compare and contrast Bush's stance on abortion with Rice's. How are they differnet?
Better Rice than Rudy.
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