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Should Insects be Zotted in an Animal Rights Philosophy?
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Posted on 12/08/2004 6:15:57 PM PST by gorder

I include insects in my animal rights philosophy. I try to avoid accidentally stepping on insects. Also, when I find an insect in my home, I try to carefully carry the insect outside without injuring him.

With regards to animal rights, the distinguishing characteristic between plants and animals is that animals possess consciousness, whereas plants do not. Although I can not prove it with absolute 100% certainty, I believe that at least certain insects are also conscious. By this, I do not mean that insects discuss philosophy, but simply that they feel sensations such as pain and hunger. For this reason, I believe we should include insects in our sphere of compassion.

It is true that regardless of how hard we try, we are inevitably going to accidentally kill some insects during our lifetimes. It is also true that regardless of how hard we try, some people are going to be killed in car accidents. However, the fact that we might run over someone with our car by accident does not imply that it is ok to run them over on purpose.


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1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:15:57 PM PST by gorder
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To: gorder

I agree. However, do not overlook the Sporozoan.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:17:12 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: gorder

I kill flies.


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:18:16 PM PST by Sally'sConcerns (It's painless to be a monthly donor!)
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To: gorder
A new piece by Peter Singer?

Insects = precious

Babies, the elderly = expendable

4 posted on 12/08/2004 6:19:06 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why are you here?.... and how long will it take before someone "accidentally" steps on you?


5 posted on 12/08/2004 6:21:19 PM PST by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: gorder
But after reading this skreed, I want to find someone who talks about "spheres of compassion" and run them over with my gas-guzzling SUV.

Also, why is it a "sphere" of compassion and not a rectangular parallelpiped of compassion? Didn't the smartest man in America 2004 talk about being compassionate by putting social security receipts into a lockbox? Isn't that just a right(eous) rectangular parallelpiped of compassion?

Say, that sounds like about five or six gas-guzzling SUVs. Hey, guys, I eat meat!

6 posted on 12/08/2004 6:21:26 PM PST by Lunkhead_01
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To: gorder
I include insects in my animal rights philosophy. I try to avoid accidentally stepping on insects. Also, when I find an insect in my home, I try to carefully carry the insect outside without injuring him.

Damn, I miss Phil Hartman!

7 posted on 12/08/2004 6:22:56 PM PST by JennysCool (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: gorder

And you registered today to post this useless vanity? What, are you hoping to find that FReepers go on mass insecticidal killing sprees? We only kill trolls, so say your prayers.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 6:31:46 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: gorder

After driving thru the Florida Everglades in my Dodge Ram, I had some wonderful insects stuck in the grill. I marveled at their color and shape. Then I washed them off in Fort Myers at the Rub A Dub Car wash with some strong pre soak chemicals.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 6:32:14 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: acapesket

What are you planning to do about the billions (trillions?) of bacteria that are working as slaves in your body?


10 posted on 12/08/2004 6:32:23 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: gorder; MeekOneGOP; King Prout; Darksheare; timpad; SandyInSeattle

Insecticoid Troll Alert!


11 posted on 12/08/2004 6:32:35 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: gorder

Would these be the insects that eat and kill all the vegetables?

Yeah! I don't think we should kill them either.

Save them, and let vegetarians become extinct!


12 posted on 12/08/2004 6:34:41 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Dallas59

Bug-B-Gone works great, too. What I really hate is in the summertime, when a big old bug the size of Texas hits the windshield. You can hear it go plop, and it leaves yellow goo and blood in a big streak. Then when you use your windshield wipers, it just smears the bug guts all over your windshield.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 6:34:47 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: pharmamom
Zotty eats bugs too!


14 posted on 12/08/2004 6:35:03 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: pharmamom

It's a mess. I still have bug guts on my front bumber from last summers vacation. They were black bugs. About the size of a pencil eraser.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 6:36:44 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: Dallas59

Jetta (sorry no pics) loves to chase flies. It's worth having one of those annoying little f***ers in the house just to watch her go mental.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 6:36:44 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: Dallas59

"bumber"--is that anything like a beeber? Your beeber gets stuned; your bumber gets buged. (misspelled on purpose)


17 posted on 12/08/2004 6:37:40 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: pharmamom

Heh...They eat em...then wonder what the heck they put in their mouth.


18 posted on 12/08/2004 6:38:21 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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To: gorder

"Although I can not prove it with absolute 100% certainty, I believe that at least certain insects are also conscious. By this, I do not mean that insects discuss philosophy, but simply that they feel sensations such as pain and hunger."

Although I have no scientific backround, I'm 100% sure that insects have consciousness as defined herein. They've got exo-skeletons (always thought that was one of God's more brilliant concepts, but kind of glad I don't have one myself) so I'm not sooooo sure about the pain thing, but feeling pretty convinced on that HUNGER thing.


19 posted on 12/08/2004 6:38:33 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: pharmamom

Front end?


20 posted on 12/08/2004 6:38:43 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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