Gay-Friendly U.S. Bishops Outed by Homosexual Activist 'Catholic' Group

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[UnbornChild]

Source URL: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/nov/04111108.html

LifeSite Daily News Thursday November 11, 2004

Gay-Friendly U.S. Bishops Outed by Homosexual Activist 'Catholic' Group

WASHINGTON, November 11, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Four of the most controversial left-leaning US Catholic Bishops have been praised by a homosexual activist group. Archbishop Harry Flynn (Minneapolis/St Paul, MN), Cardinal Roger Mahony (Los Angeles, CA), Bishop Mathew Clark (Rochester, NY) and Bishop Thomas J. Gumbleton (Detroit) were named in a press release by the Rainbow Sash Movement (RSM).

RSM is a group of homosexual activists which stages publicity stunts daring Catholic clergy to deny members communion. RSM members present themselves for communion while wearing a rainbow-colored sash indicating that they are sexually-active homosexuals. While Catholic bishops throughout the United States have themselves refused communion to RSM activists and warned their clergy not to administer communion to them, RSM notes that the four very liberal bishops "have welcomed RSM members to Holy Communion this past year."

RSM has announced to the press that it will be staging its characteristic challenge on Monday, November 15 at the 7pm Mass at the Basilica of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, DC.

See the RSM press release: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041111/nyth066_1.html

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[AAABEST]

Where is Bishop Howard Hubbard on this list?

What about Pilla?

[Dan from Michigan]

Gumbleton is a nut.

[narses]

Ping.

[TheEditor]

Gumbleton is a friend to most any leftist cause one can think of. But Dan, isn't Gumbleton pro-life? I don't think he likes being asked about it, but I do believe he has at least expressed true pro-life sentiments, and not out of any respect for orthodoxy.

I could be wrong though.

[vox_freedom]

We, the laity, share a lot of the blame, because we did not as one rise up and say NO to the changes...

I agree. It is also up to the laity to recognize and fix some of the present problems. This includes holding accountabilities with bishops and priests. The present sex abuse scandal should teach us that the hierarchy is culpable and since they are directly implicated here they must be called out and removed if necessary. We can do our duty to God only by fulfilling His will and appropriate actions to support His truths.

[JesseHousman]

Archbishop Harry Flynn (Minneapolis/St Paul, MN), Cardinal Roger Mahony (Los Angeles, CA), Bishop Mathew Clark (Rochester, NY) and Bishop Thomas J. Gumbleton (Detroit)

Our ailing pope, who has been slogging through incompetence throughout his reign, will miss this item completely.

We practicing Roman Catholics can only hope that the Vatican is witness to another miracle from The Blessed Virgin, or Her Son that will shake them to their very bones and timbers! Many of those who are behind Vatican walls have been complicit in the planned destruction of the Church. God will punish!

What a horrible 4 1/2 decades this has been!

[Salvation]

Thanks for the ping!

[Dan from Michigan]

I'll be shocked if he is. I certainly never heard anything about him being pro-life.

I know Cardinal Maida is pro-life.

[Dan from Michigan]

BTW - I'm not in the Detroit Diocese (I'm in Lansing's) so there's probably more informed Catholics on him than I am.

[Unam Sanctam]

I thought Flynn was just squishy and weak, but not unorthodox. Is he really a liberal?

[netmilsmom]

>> What about Pilla?<<

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/

My question exactly!

[dsc]

"It's one thing to advocate the old rite, but you justify disobedience to the Magisterium on the grounds that *you personally* think it's wrong."

There's that old, old pattern.

When you're the "outs," disobedience is justified, but when you're the "ins," it's the worst of crimes--and always just the other fellow's "personal opinion," despite the Scriptures and despite 2,000 years of the Church's teachings.

No, he's not advocating disobedience based on his personal opinion. He's advocating resistance to the disobedience of the magisterium.

[26lemoncharlie]

Welcome to the Novous Ordo Church!! Isn't Vatican II Great!! Tolerance and acceptance, Sodomy for intelligience!! Free Infanticide for all!!

[rogator]

"Looks like its time to defrock and excommunicate a few Bishops."

Bishops are not defrocked; even if they are homos,pedos, theives or heretics.
They are above the law.

[amdgmary]

I'm surprised they didn't include Bishop Robert Lynch of the Diocese of St. Petersburg, Florida in their list. He's a good friend of Bishops Matthew Clark, Howard Hubbard and Cardinal Mahony. He was sued several years ago for sexually harrassing a married man.

[dsc]

"He was sued several years ago for sexually harrassing a married man."

Oh, good grief.

And I suppose if someone tried organizing a boycott of that diocese's churches, all concerned would be excommunicated.

[amdgmary]

"And I suppose if someone tried organizing a boycott of that diocese's churches, all concerned would be excommunicated."

You're right! Bishop Lynch has threatened people if they even try to protest against him. The priests are either afraid of him or go along with his liberal agenda.

[jjmcgo]

Bad, pointless, annoying, creepy, modern hymns.

[jjmcgo]

It was St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC, the most famous Catholic church in America.

[Diago]

From Bishop Pilla's Website:

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/images/glfmlogo.gif

The official logo for the Diocese of Cleveland Gay and Lesbian Ministry [Warning: This is not a joke]:

From previous stories on Bishop Pilla:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1060132/posts

In March, 2002, about two years after leaving the diocese, Charlie [the bishop's former lawyer] says he met again with Bishop Gries. “I met with Bishop Roger and I told him as a friend that he needed to tell Pilla to step down. That's all I said.”

I prod him to continue. “Because of the manner in which all of this had been handled.”

Charlie later says, “The thing that really fried me was the way the church in Cleveland has agreed to ‘infanticize' Anthony. It's like he's a child. ‘Oh, he didn't know this, he didn't know that.' Wait a minute, oh merciful God. Then what's he in charge of one million Catholics for? Yes, Quinn did crazy stuff, but he was a lieutenant, you are the general. Why didn't you stop it?

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/762432/posts

The following appeared in "The Wanderer's" From the Mail Section.: In Cleveland, which has been racked with the most damaging sex abuse scandals outside of Boston and Los Angeles, diocesan officials, including Bishop Anthony Pilla, maintain a stiff upper lip as some homosexual activists in the chancery and parishes continue to transform parishes into gay-friendly communities. Consider:

The Diocese of Cleveland's official web site (www.dioceseofcleveland.com) greets the viewer with a rainbow flag, and gay activists at the diocese's Gay and Lesbian Family Ministry (GLFM) office are way out and way proud.

One member of the GLFM recorded his experience on an area gay web site of his participation in the Cleveland Gay Pride Parade, informing, "The catholic group had a very nice sized contingent. There were a whole ton of other religious groups as well...Oh, did I mention that I am in the same video as a pornstar?!...Our table was almost across from The Grid's table, so we got to watch Matt Rush shirtless signing autographs and posing for pictures most of the afternoon. I felt so uncouth ogling a pornstar and trying to be a respectable representative of the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland...

"The Stonewall Democrats had the booth next to The Grid, and they had some mighty fine shirtless guys sitting at their table, too. After we took down our table at the pride festival, seven of us from the Catholic group went out to dinner...We also had the same waiter that we had last time...the cute one with attitude."

The author of that revealing letter is the apparent friend of Brian Halderman, a longtime gay activist of the Diocese of Cleveland who recently announced that he is joining the Society of Mary (Marianists) in Dayton.

In another Internet chat thread sent to FTM by a Cleveland reader, Halderman revealed that while a parishioner at Ascension Church (a church plagued by a number of predator priests), he was a chatechist involved in the sacramental preparation of second graders.

Reader, does all this help you understand what bishops such as Clark and Hubbard and Pilla mean by the "lay-run church.

You can contact the diocese of Cleveland toll free at 1-800-869-6525 or by e-mailing:

info@dioceseofcleveland.org

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The following exchange appeared in an article on a gay convicted priest here in Cleveland. [Note: Burkhart is a gay detective and McBride is the gay priest]:

Burkhart and McBride dined on crab cakes and chatted lightly. After dinner, McBride turned the conversation to the recent Catholic Church scandal. He hoped that, when it was all over, the church would recognize that priests are sexual beings too -- and that some are gay.

"Back in the 1960s, would you have ever come to a place like this?" Burkhart asked. "I mean, in this town, where you were working?"

"Probably not, no," McBride said. "Realistically, in 1960, no."

"And in certain places it looks like the seminary on Saturday night now," Burkhart joked.

"Yeah, that really is how it is," McBride said.

They compared notes on seeing clergy in gay bars. Then Burkhart stammered as he asked McBride a personal question: "So, whenever you had sex . . . were you bound to go to confession and confess it before you said Mass, or . . .?"

"Well, you were supposed to, yes," McBride said.

"Do you think all these priests do?"

"No," McBride said. "I think they changed their minds and decided it's not a sin."

The full article can be found at this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/992919/posts