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Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked (A "progressive" whine ...)
Saturday, November 6, 2004 | Thom Hartmann

Posted on 11/09/2004 10:55:05 AM PST by dixie_conservative

When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06, 2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And some believe evidence is accumulating that the national effort happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a table, available at http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm, and noticed something startling. [...]


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KEYWORDS: democratscheat; diebold; electronicvoting; exitpolls; fraud; newbie; votefraud; votingmachines
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Good grief. Anyone else seeing crap like this? Other threads I have missed? FWIW, I got this entire article on the Bugtraq Securityfocus mailing list which is dedicated to bug and security reporting for computer software. This same list has had whiners about the Diebold touch screen voting machines for months. Luckily those threads died out ... now this. :-/

I went and looked at this Thom Hartman's web site ... I don't recommend going there unless you keep a barf bucket by your PC.

1 posted on 11/09/2004 10:55:09 AM PST by dixie_conservative
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To: Travis McGee

FYI


2 posted on 11/09/2004 10:57:03 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: dixie_conservative
Hey, we should help them find fraud.

It can only make Democrats look worse.

Start in Philadelphia.
3 posted on 11/09/2004 10:57:35 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: dixie_conservative
"And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat."

... So Democrats rigged the 2004 election? I can believe that, if the qualifier here is McBride beating Reno: Democrats kept the black vote from turning out for Reno.

Bunch of nutcases.
4 posted on 11/09/2004 10:57:49 AM PST by Terpfen (Anyone who worried about the election: crack a smile. We won.)
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To: dixie_conservative

The left begged for these machines. Now, they did not get the result that they wanted they cry foul. What a bunch of wankers.


5 posted on 11/09/2004 10:58:08 AM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: mc6809e

Kerry has GIVEN UP ON OHIO!

http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/

These people need to go home!


6 posted on 11/09/2004 10:58:26 AM PST by montereyp1
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To: dixie_conservative

It can't be hacked. This is garbage. The machines aren't hooked up to a network. This is such disinformation.


7 posted on 11/09/2004 10:59:21 AM PST by faithincowboys
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To: dixie_conservative

I knew it! I knew it! I knew! Clinton stole the election in 92 and 96.. those bastards!!!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 11/09/2004 10:59:50 AM PST by hapy
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To: faithincowboys

They are their own worst enemy...

and I love it!


9 posted on 11/09/2004 11:00:53 AM PST by DanTheAdmin (A blue man in a red state...)
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To: hapy

Since when are Dems known for telling the truth? They'll spread this message over the world's media and repeat it like a mantra for the next four years.


10 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:13 AM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: dixie_conservative

Oops! Forgot the URL to the Securityfocus site: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/380631/2004-11-06/2004-11-12/0


11 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:22 AM PST by dixie_conservative (Warning: premises protected by 12 gauge shotgun wielding conservative.)
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To: dixie_conservative

This blog has been documenting this crap since day one:

http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/

It's all over the place.

Pathetic!


12 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:42 AM PST by montereyp1
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To: dixie_conservative

This article has been posted a number of times on FR already. Some accounts have been ZOTted...


13 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:51 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: dixie_conservative
Hmm. An individual suspects "tampering". So. Who does this alleged tampering benefit? The president. Who do you call? The FBI. Who does the FBI work for? The president. And this clown thinks that if tampering did occur, something would be done about it?

Conspiracy 101..

14 posted on 11/09/2004 11:01:52 AM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Meega, Nala Kweesta! Give A+BERT (snakeoil) his name back! Help him, JimRob, you're his only hope...)
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To: dixie_conservative

I think there is a sale on tin foil hats those guys are missing...


15 posted on 11/09/2004 11:02:03 AM PST by jrestrepo
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To: dixie_conservative

Anyone doing ANYTHING that would have gotten Clinton's girl Reno out of the political picture had carte blanche and the world's permission!


16 posted on 11/09/2004 11:02:47 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: Terpfen

Janet "Timberrrrr" Reno lost any chance she had at beating McBride when she keeled over in public like a giant oak .


17 posted on 11/09/2004 11:02:57 AM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Terpfen
... So Democrats rigged the 2004 election?

I should have posted the URL and forgot to. It is now posted in a reply to myself here. They are caliming REPUBLICANS rigged the votes.

18 posted on 11/09/2004 11:03:31 AM PST by dixie_conservative (Warning: premises protected by 12 gauge shotgun wielding conservative.)
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To: dixie_conservative

I agree that this is more of the same whining.

But I think that if there aren't safeguards to prevent fraud with electronic voting, the RATS could do it to us sometime in the future.

For instance, voting for House reps are local affairs. It would only take one or two corruptable people in a few key states to thwart the will of the majority.

I'm surprised that more people aren't concerned about this.

Just because we won THIS TIME is no assurance of what will happen in the future.


19 posted on 11/09/2004 11:04:01 AM PST by shot_gun_r (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever)
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To: dixie_conservative

Are these voting machines or any equipment where the vote tally is stored linked to the internet?


20 posted on 11/09/2004 11:04:03 AM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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