Genetic Changes In Mice 'Question Evolution Speed'

Ananova ^ | 5-21-2003

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Genetic changes in mice 'question evolution speed'

A species of mouse has evolved dramatically in just 150 years, showing genetic change can occur much faster than was thought possible.

The discovery was made by accident by two American biologists studying the genetic make-up of a common wild mouse in Chicago.

Dr Dennis Nyberg and Dr Oliver Pergams, both from the University of Illinois at Chicago, analysed DNA samples from 56 museum specimens of the white-footed mouse dating back to 1855, and 52 wild mice captured from local forests and parks.

They found startling genetic differences between the 19th century and modern mice.

Only one of the present-day mice had DNA that matched that of mice collected before 1950.

While fast evolutionary change has been seen in fruit flies, such rapid evolution in a mammal has not been reported before.

The scientists, whose findings appear in the journal Nature, believe humans may have been partly responsible for the "new" mice.

"Settlers may have brought in mice with the favourable gene that were able to out-compete mice with the native variant," said Dr Pergams.

Story filed: 18:18 Wednesday 21st May 2003

[Gargantua]

Actually, if you're going to Hell, it'll have to be my way... your way doesn't believe in Hell. Sorry.

[Aric2000]

What?

Oh, that's right, I am going to go to hell because I am not a Christian.

Sorry, I do not believe in your hell, and actually, if you do the calculations, heaven is hotter then hell, at least I'll be more comfortable. Hell is air conditioned compared to heaven.

Anyway, that is neither here nor there, I do not believe in hell, nor heaven, so your punishment does not scare me in the least.

Here is the difference between you and I.

You fear death, and believe with all your heart that there is something better after you die, and that you have to earn it.

I on the other hand do not fear death, it is a natural part of life, I do not fear punishment after death either.

Your heaven and hell are a fairly recent invention, it was a way to keep the peasants in line, and to make sure that the priests had control of the flocks, through excommunication etc.

It was a form of control, I am not controlled by such fear, therefore it has no effect on me.

No, I will die when my time comes, it is NOT something to fear. It is just a part of life.

[Right Wing Professor]

Wasting time on peer reviewed papers?

Not enough time. This is a worthless thread. Other than the tracking down of yet another creationist make-a-quote, it's mostly childish insults. Time to take a FR-free week.

[Aric2000]

I think that I will follow that advice as well.

Have a good week professor.

[Dataman]

The only way you can get ALS on a date is if you go to a neurotoxin restaurant.

(Rimshot)

Been to any good ones?

(Rimshot)

Take my neurotoxin. Please

(Rimshot)

[Aric2000]

Yeah, and we were posting at the same time.

How about you take the diaper off your head, it seems to have cut off the circulation to your brain.

You're the one that seems to need a momma to be a good boy, wouldn't want to go to hell.

Never did understand that either, why do you need a punishment in order to be a good person? Do you need a hell in order to be good?

Do you need the threat of a spanking by your big bad god in order to be a moral person?

Yeah, that sounds all grown up, doesn't it?

I don't need that threat, I don't need some punishment hanging over my head head in order to be a moral person, what's your problem?

[Lurking Libertarian]

Nice rimshots. Care to discuss the evidence your buddy ALS has been studiously ignoring?

[Aric2000]

I seriously doubt it.

Sorry, on a bashing spree this morning, arrogant little twits.

Anyway, off to other things, like making money.

[Lurking Libertarian]

off to other things, like making money.

Sounds like a plan.

[Dataman]

Care to discuss the evidence your buddy ALS has been studiously ignoring?

To be honest, no, not any more interested than you'd be in discussing the evidence materialists ignore. Some other thread. This thread bit the dust about a thousand posts ago.

[Aric2000]

Boy, you guys are so good at calling names.

You can give it, but lord forbid if you have to take it back.

Such arrogance, just unreal.

And I have a right to defense, I do not turn the other cheek, so be prepared if you jump me, because you will get jumped in return.

[Junior]

Wow, you really are moral, huh? My mistake. You imbecile.

The irony in that statement is breathtaking...

[Dataman]

The red line shows evolutionist insults on this thread (in thousands) and the green line shows creationist insults on this thread.

[PatrickHenry]

Breathtaking placemarker.

[js1138]

When the gene pool of a set of organisms becomes quite small...

<sarcasm>How small is the gene pool of single celled organisms, and are they endangered?</sarcasm>

[Aric2000]

He just came out of no where too.

Don't remember ever seeing him around, and then to get jumped by him, ooh doggy. I am in a piss poor mood today as it is, and then to have some arrogant nitwit jump me, well, he got what he gave, that's all I can say.

[martianagent]

"Oh, BTW, I'm currently writing my 75th peer reviewed scientific paper, to be submitted (optimistically) to Science."

How many peer-reviewed papers did Thomas Edison, Tesla, Henry Ford, and the Wright brothers have between them?

[Dimensio]

Oh come on! You lost control. You're just compounding the embarrassment by fabricating an excuse.

I'm pretty sure that I know my own motives. My intention was to bait ALS or someone who would defend him into calling me on my insults and then toss out the same line that he's been using to defend his use of inane and baseless ad hominem starting from when he attacked me without any provocation whatsoever simply because I asked for some context for a quote. Take a look, my vitrol didn't kick into high gear until after he threw that at me.

He's been having fun with you guys and, one by one, you've been showing your empty hands.

What? He's been throwing dishonestly out of context quotes and attacking people with little or no provocation here. He's a complete and total jerk. For you to defend him shows that you don't care that he's a jerk and you don't care about who is right and who is wrong, you just care that your precious worldview is protected, no matter how much an idiot its defenders are.

Besides, you're one to talk. I once asked you to state evolution theory and point out where it mentioned life origins. You claimed to have done this, yet none of the quotes that you presented were actually a stating of evolution theory. You are still running away from that one, pretending that you met the challenge even though you did anything but. You're as big a liar as ALS.