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Confrontation over gay kiss sparks battle
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 08 January 2003 | Dean Narciso

Posted on 01/08/2003 8:57:31 AM PST by Deadeye Division

Confrontation over gay kiss sparks battle
Wednesday, January 8, 2003
Dean Narciso
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Like so many people who say goodbye before heading on a trip, T.J. Williams hugged and kissed his partner while he waited to board a Greyhound bus.

Had the object of his affection been a woman, the parting likely would have gone unnoticed.

But a security guard at the Downtown bus terminal was watching and told Williams: "People here don't like to see that freaky-deaky stuff.'' He asked Williams to stop, according to a Columbus police report that was filed on the incident that occurred last spring.

Since that time, Williams has turned down an offer of money from Greyhound. He was in Columbus yesterday to raise awareness of the issue.

"This has happened so many times," Williams said. "Unfortunately, because people don't want to come out, these things are kind of swept under the carpet.''

The tension on that June 15 morning escalated when Williams asked to see a manager.

Williams, 32, a Youngstown resident who calls himself a contemporary Christian singer and composer, was called "trouble'' by the manager and told to leave.

In a Greyhound report, the guard -- Michael Forney of Global One, the security company that Greyhound contracts with -- said he was summoned about 4 a.m. by passengers who complained about two men kissing outside the terminal.

"As I approached . . . I noticed that they (were) kissing passionately and grabbing each other's buttocks. I simply asked the gentlemen to conduct themselves as adults,'' Forney says in the report.

Calls to Global One and Greyhound were not returned yesterday. Forney also couldn't be reached.

Williams denies that his behavior was lewd.

At least one witness agrees.

"I was tired and worn out from traveling. They seemed really happy,'' said Erica Wiggins, 22, who was stopped in Columbus while on a trip to Canada. "It made me happy to see them happy.''

Wiggins' male friend asked the guard, "Would you say that to me if it were me and my girlfriend?'' The guard responded, "That's different,'' recalled Wiggins, of Kansas City, Mo.

Williams -- who is black -- said he's prepared to become a symbol for gays and other minorities. "The fact that I was kissing a white man, and kissing a man, played into their own sexism, racism and homophobia.''

Last summer, Williams filed a formal complaint with the Columbus Community Relations Commission, which investigates discrimination.

He has turned down a $500 offer from Greyhound that the commission brokered. It would have absolved the bus company of guilt or future legal action.

He has instead appealed to the commission, asking for $100,000 from Greyhound and Global One, sensitivity training, Forney's firing and new policies at Greyhound.

Yesterday, Williams met with the gay-rights group Stonewall Columbus for advice. He said he's prepared to file a federal suit, but what he most wants is justice and to empower others.

"I think that there are times that all of us have to be a little bit of Rosa Parks and Jesse Jackson. Otherwise, society doesn't change, folks don't learn.''


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KEYWORDS: freakydeaky; freakydeakystuff; homosexualagenda; shakedown; threadofftopic; triallawyers
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To: Deadeye Division
He has instead appealed to the commission, asking for $100,000 from Greyhound and Global One, sensitivity training, Forney's firing and new policies at Greyhound.

This is rich. Lets take these one by one shall we:

"$100,000" These two were damaged in the amount of $100,000 by someone's words? Interesting.

"sensitivity training Yawn! Next!

"Forney's firing" So, they believe they should get to dictate who Greyhound can have as an employee? Thats odd, I thought queers were against employers having such power. And no cour tcould force Greyhound to fire anyone in the first place.

"New policies" That what, encourgae same-sex fraternizing in public?

Stupid, intolerant queers.

21 posted on 01/08/2003 9:38:52 AM PST by FreeTally (When a mime is arrested, do the police have to tell him he has the right to remain silent)
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To: Psalm 73
Who the hell wants to see that in public,

Add that to the list of things I don't want to see in public.

Along with people advocating agents of the government enforcing their view of morality at the point of a gun. I'm sure you don't like the sight of that either.

23 posted on 01/08/2003 9:39:26 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Do you support such laws?

I support the ability to enact them. As your namesake would.

25 posted on 01/08/2003 9:40:36 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: ThomasJefferson
"Do you support such laws? "

I support such laws. I also support laws prohibiting bestiality.

26 posted on 01/08/2003 9:41:31 AM PST by davisfh
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To: Hacksaw
I support the ability to enact them.

Along with the ability to enact Jim Crow laws?

27 posted on 01/08/2003 9:42:27 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Deadeye Division
For a moment I thought that this was a story about the
two gay Irishmen, Hugh Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzhugh.
28 posted on 01/08/2003 9:43:06 AM PST by davisfh
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To: davisfh
I support such laws.

Mind if I watch you and your spouse having sex so everyone can be sure you aren't violating any laws?

29 posted on 01/08/2003 9:44:42 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
Along with the ability to enact Jim Crow laws?

Af far as I know, that would be unconstitutional.

30 posted on 01/08/2003 9:45:24 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: homeschool mama
a contemporary Christian singer and composer

He must go to The Church founded on The Rock Hudson....

31 posted on 01/08/2003 9:46:12 AM PST by freebilly
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To: ThomasJefferson
"Do you support such laws?"

The real Thomas Jefferson did.
32 posted on 01/08/2003 9:47:00 AM PST by Lucas McCain
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To: dflan1973
So what you are saying is that I must accept your immorality?

Who is forcing who's morals and ideals on whom?

I don't personally French-kiss my wife and grab her buttocks in public.

So if you noticed someone kissing in public, in a perverted way, a young child or an animal you would just mind your own business?
33 posted on 01/08/2003 9:47:53 AM PST by TSgt
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To: Hacksaw
Not when they made em. You support them then?
34 posted on 01/08/2003 9:48:03 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: Lucas McCain
Irrelevant, he also had slaves. What about you?
35 posted on 01/08/2003 9:48:53 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: freebilly
euwwwww
36 posted on 01/08/2003 9:49:33 AM PST by homeschool mama (crawling back into my cave)
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To: ThomasJefferson
Not when they made em. You support them then?

Hmmmm? I would not vote for such a law. What are you implying? You are trying to change the subject from behaviour to race.

37 posted on 01/08/2003 9:53:09 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Deadeye Division
Williams denies that his behavior was lewd

Well, maybe it wasn't lewd, technically speaking, but homosexual kissing will inevitably gross out a certain section of the public, just like picking your nose in public.

38 posted on 01/08/2003 9:53:47 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Deadeye Division
"I think that there are times that all of us have to be a little bit of Rosa Parks

Geez, what a stretch.

39 posted on 01/08/2003 9:55:24 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you can't beat 'em, beat 'em anyway)
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To: Hacksaw
Hmmmm? I would not vote for such a law.

Good, move up one spot.

What are you implying? You are trying to change the subject from behaviour to race.

I'm addressing your point. Go back and see what point you made, then you will know what I am impying.

40 posted on 01/08/2003 9:56:18 AM PST by Protagoras
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