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Depression 'is NOT caused by low serotonin levels': Study casts doubt over widespread use of potent drugs designed to treat chemical imbalance in brain
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 07/19/2022 7:58:47 PM PDT by algore

Low serotonin levels do not cause depression, according to a major review.

Today's landmark findings call into question society's ever-growing reliance on antidepressants like Prozac.

Millions of patients take selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors

We believe this situation has been driven partly by the false belief that depression is due to a chemical imbalance.

'It is high time to inform the public that this belief is not grounded in science.'

One in six British adults and roughly 13 per cent of Americans take antidepressants, figures suggest.

NHS data shows there has been a surge in prescriptions doled out in England, with 8.3million patients taking them in 2021/22, 6 per cent more than the previous year.

The most common are SSRIs such as fluoxetine (Prozac), citalopram (Cipramil) and sertraline (Lustral).

Serotonin helps carry signals in the brain and is thought to have a positive influence on mood, emotion and sleep.

They are preferred to other types of antidepressants because they cause fewer side effects. Yet they can still lead patients taking them to experience anxiety, diarrhoea, dizziness and blurred vision.

Depressed patients can also be hit by crippling withdrawal symptoms when they try to come off the pills.

At the same time, a raft of studies have suggested they don't work any better than a placebo.

The UCL study, published in the journal Molecular Psychiatry, analysed 17 previous reviews dating back to 2010 and consisting of dozens of individual trials.

It does not prove SSRIs don't work. However, it does suggest the drugs don't treat depression by fixing abnormally low serotonin levels.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: depression; serotonin; ssri
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To: hinckley buzzard

Cognitive behavioral therapy is OK, at best. Psychiatry is currently way off track, IMHO. People are individuals, with individual issues. Psychiatry doesn’t treat individuals anymore. As a field, it is now focused on universal solutions - which is usually a drug.


21 posted on 07/19/2022 9:06:40 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: algore

This is a real touchy subject for many.

If somebody claims it does not help, they might want to say what does.

I know people on this medication and discipline is not their strong suit.


22 posted on 07/19/2022 9:12:12 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President!)
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To: Jemian

I find reading scripture aloud to be a helpful practice. The psalms particularly.


23 posted on 07/19/2022 9:22:15 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


24 posted on 07/19/2022 9:25:43 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: algore

Most mental illness is result of childhood trauma. They dont call it the formative years for nothing. Another big factor is the natural deportment of the child...introvert or extrovert...will determine how they interpret whether a threat exists or not. Soooo many adults carry around a damaged inner child...and look to outside things for anxiety/depression relief. Unfortunately Dr’s are happy to prescribe potent mind altering drugs anytime. No wonder suicides and other insane behaviors are at record highs.


25 posted on 07/19/2022 9:28:56 PM PDT by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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To: Persevero

Thank you. Yes. I whole-heartedly agree. It is because God is with me, ESPECIALLY through the reading of His Word, that I am not overcome by despair. He HAS heard my despairing cry and HAS and WILL CONTINUALLY kept me.

You have encouraged me, Brother. Thank you. I hope my sharing this helps others, too. God hasn’t, for whatever reason, taken away my depression. But, I am confident He will hold me close all the way through it.


26 posted on 07/19/2022 9:29:15 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle! It is great to be an Auburn Tiger.)
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To: roving

I appreciate you sharing your struggle. I am glad to know I am not alone.


27 posted on 07/19/2022 9:32:00 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle! It is great to be an Auburn Tiger.)
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To: Persevero
He Will Hold Me Fast
28 posted on 07/19/2022 9:41:02 PM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle! It is great to be an Auburn Tiger.)
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To: FamiliarFace

Yep, everybody on SSRIs are fat, lazy, and stay indoors. /s

Heyyyy, watch it. C’mon, man!


29 posted on 07/19/2022 9:41:57 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“...cognitive behavioral therapy. That will include lifestyle interventions such as improving diet, exercise, coaching on problem solving skills, social skills, etc.”

Try dumping all that on a patient with a Hamilton-D score of 30 or greater. Ain’t gonna happen.


30 posted on 07/19/2022 9:43:26 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Jemian

Prayers for all of us.


31 posted on 07/19/2022 9:43:49 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: know.your.why

“Most mental illness is result of childhood trauma. “

Except it isn’t.


32 posted on 07/19/2022 9:44:30 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: roving
Exercise is not a cure all

Of course it isn't, but I can attest that, for me, it has a measurable effect, so much so that whenever I am in a funk, especially if some significant misfortune has just occurred, getting serious exercise is my go-to treatment. The exercise has to be sufficiently strenuous, however, at least 45-minutes to an hour of something that makes me sweat profusely (hiking uphill, running, or, in the old days, sparring). The endorphins alone have a dramatic effect on mood.

Also, if you take vitamin D, my understanding is that you need to take K2 also to help the body process it. Or you could just eat leafy green vegetables and get out into the sun.
33 posted on 07/19/2022 10:12:36 PM PDT by fr_freak ( )
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To: algore

It’s a shame that these people don’t have a clue. Distorted thinking causes depression as well as distressing events.

Anti-depressants force the brain to process information when it is attempting to not process upsetting things.

Bore


34 posted on 07/19/2022 10:41:14 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Jemian

We are all in this together. Thank you for your kind words.


35 posted on 07/19/2022 10:50:38 PM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: FamiliarFace

I saw a cartoon that showed a person holding a bottle of pills for depression and the other person standing there said how about going outside and meeting people.


36 posted on 07/19/2022 11:10:07 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Jemian

Suggestions for research for depression mitigation for Christians. May the Holy Spirit guide your search.

HOW DEMONS CAN CAUSE DEPRESSION | DEREK PRINCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0554CQJPvsM 15 minutes, audio

593: Deliverance is the Great Commission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjhBKRyT54A 55 min, video

https://www.straitwaytruth.com/straitwaytruth-resources/Seducing-Spirits-Win-Worley.pdf

This one is a current ministry in Dallas/FW Texas area.
https://www.keyministries.org/ - Youtube Channel is “Deliverance Talk”, Pastor Micah Bell


37 posted on 07/19/2022 11:39:55 PM PDT by Norski (Revelation 22:20)
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To: algore
"We do not understand what antidepressants are doing to the brain exactly".
38 posted on 07/20/2022 12:36:59 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: algore
This might be the study from 2019:

Antidepressants may reduce anxiety more than depressive symptoms. Study on Lancet Psychiatry: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(19)30366-9/fulltext DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/S2215-0366(19)30366-9

The PANDA study was a pragmatic, multicentre, double-blind, placebo-controlled randomised trial of patients from 179 primary care surgeries in four UK cities (Bristol, Liverpool, London, and York). We included patients aged 18 to 74 years who had depressive symptoms of any severity or duration in the past 2 years.

39 posted on 07/20/2022 3:49:16 AM PDT by ChuckR163
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To: steve86
“Most mental illness is result of childhood trauma. “ Except it isn’t.

Yeah you're right. Ah what do i know. I'm not a doctor...I can only speak from my own personal experience. Put everyone on ssri's. screw it.
40 posted on 07/20/2022 4:09:28 AM PDT by know.your.why (If you dont watch the MSM you are uninformed. If you do watch the MSM you are misinformed.)
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