WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST

Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

[Reaganite Republican]

Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit: 

"No Obama birth certificate exists"

ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.

Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us? 

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...

"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate." 

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government." 

Tim Adams

Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady." 

Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."

The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."

But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz. 

“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.” 

Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-

Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics. 

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:

I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012. 

And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman... 
where's the subpoenas? 

The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.

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[butterdezillion]

Why didn’t Abercrombie say he had found the birth certificate?

[butterdezillion]

How about official communications from officials who accidentally reveal that what they have for Obama is not legally valid?

[Chunga]

Ever consider the possibility that he enjoys the controversy, as it keeps his opponents distracted?

Of course not, curiosity. No one here is capable of harboring such a deep, impenetrable thought.

Don't you know all Birthers are dumbasses, ripe for being played like fiddles by their intellectually superior socialist overlords while Internet trolls mock their brainpower?

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Dang! Now I am distracted.

Guess I’ll never have time now to notice Obama is destroying America !!!

[Flamenco Lady]

In most states the short form BC is an abreviated version of the long form BC, but in Hawaii it may or may not be an abreviated version of a long form birth certificate. Those born in foreign countries could obtain a short form Hawaiian Birth certificate. Hawaii is different in this regard to other states. The Hawaiian statutes have been posted in this forum and others numerous times and may even be available currently on their own website. While a birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspaper, any grandparent or relative could have called the newspaper and requested this announcement just like countless other grandparents did when their grandchildren were born out of state, so others in their town would know they had become grandparents. This was quite popular to do in the 1950’s and 1960’s and most newspapers would do it for free. Also there are at least two different short form birth certificates that have been posted, one on Obama’s website and the other on the daily KOS, and both have been found by forensic experts to be forged documents. There is just too much conflicting information out there for me to be able to know for certain just where he was born.

That said, I grew up in the 1960’s and I was taught about the “natural born citizen clause” at three different schools I attended. I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth. Since Obama claims his father was born in Kenya and was a British subject, Obama would not be a “natural born citizen”. Furthermore under the law in existence when Obama was born his mother could not have conferred U.S. citizenship on her son if he was born outside of the United states as Obaman’s Kenyan grandmother has attested.

[curiosity]

In most states the short form BC is an abreviated version of the long form BC, but in Hawaii it may or may not be an abreviated version of a long form birth certificate.

When there's a long form on file, it's always just an abbreviated version of the long form.

Those born in foreign countries could obtain a short form Hawaiian Birth certificate.

Not in 1961. The law you are referring to wasn't passed until 1982.

While a birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspaper, any grandparent or relative could have called the newspaper and requested this announcement just like countless other grandparents did when their grandchildren were born out of state, so others in their town would know they had become grandparents.

Incorrect. The Hawaii papers affirmed that they only published birth announcements based on information they received directly from the Health Department (called Health Bureau in those days).

This was quite popular to do in the 1950’s and 1960’s and most newspapers would do it for free.

Not the Hawaii papers that announced Bambi's birth.

Also there are at least two different short form birth certificates that have been posted, one on Obama’s website and the other on the daily KOS,

Nope. It was the same document.

and both have been found by forensic experts to be forged documents.M

Wrong again.

That said, I grew up in the 1960’s and I was taught about the “natural born citizen clause” at three different schools I attended. I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth.

You either have a bad memory or you are lying. From the time of the Kim Wong Ark decision until Nov. of 2008, no one used that definition in the United States.

[curiosity]

Abercrombie purportedly told a (long time) friend that there’s no there there.

I don't believe you. Have you got a source?

We can question ‘friends’ and online postings, but that can be said also of the COLB posted by the Obama campaign.

However, the same cannot be said by an official statement from the last Hawaii public health director stating, in no uncertain terms, that there is a long form on record.

Producing a birth certificate is no big deal, and not too much to ask of any individual who wishes to serve as President of the United States, Commander in Chief of its Armed Forces, occupant of the Oval Office and White House, and primary passenger on Air Force One and Marine One. That position, its perks and security, costs the U.S. taxpayers in the billions of dollars and authorizes the holder to send our sons and daughters into harm’s way. We have a right to know that the office holder is eligible.

The COLB and the statements by Hawaii officals already prove he is eligible.

[curiosity]

Why didn’t Abercrombie say he had found the birth certificate?

To mess with your mind and encourage more conspiracy theorizing.

[curiosity]

Did you hear the Governor himself say that? I heard him say that he couldn’t find it

He didn't say that, either. Yet another birther myth has been born.

[Reaganite Republican]

COUGH IT UP, Barry Soweto~!

[curiosity]

It is now obvious that A) there is no Hawaiian long form original BC and B) Obama knew this all along, and has been "playing" the American people.

Given that the previous health director explictly said the long form was in the state's records, I'd say you are wrong.

If you have not been proven eligible for the highest office of the land, you are INELIGIBLE.

The COLB he posted, along with the corroborating statements from the previous Hawaii public health director, are all sufficient to prove his eligibility.

[little jeremiah]

Each manual typewriter has its own indivdual characteristics. They’d have to find one of the typewriters in use in the HI DoH at that time, not just the same make or style, but one of the exact ones that was in use.

Plus every file, archive, ledger and so on would have to be “fixed”.

Not very likely.

[Reaganite Republican]

We shouldn’t have to scrape up his old college buddies to find out if he actually attended school in the first place!

Obama invites all this with the unprecedented secrecy surrounding his background- be it BC, school records, passport records, what have you. That- and a habitual dishonesty that’s really quite unsettling, when you consider this guy can send your son off to get killed.

Those asking questions have every right to... I just wish a few more had asked some in October 2008 instead of now

[little jeremiah]

You’re either being paid, or you forgot/OD’ed on your meds.

No other explanation.

[Yaelle]

Serious? One official says she has seen it, and that is good enough for you? Are you voting for Rahm for mayor of Chicago too?

And you believe that COLB? It’s fraudulent. I am not sure of the reason it’s fraudulent, but it’s apparent that his friend the new Gov could NOT find a real BC, so where would the short form come from? There is talk now that he was adopted by Soetoro and perhaps there is something in the archives about Barry Soetoro, not Barack Obama? I don’t know. But there is extensive proof online that the COLB is not legit.

[Yaelle]

I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth. Since Obama claims his father was born in Kenya and was a British subject, Obama would not be a “natural born citizen”.

How sad is it that this was a clearly known fact and NO ONE IN THE MEDIA, not even Sean or Rush, openly wondered if having a Kenyan father disqualified him from being a NBC?

[Brown Deer]

the obatroll is working overtime today!

[Brown Deer]

He didn't say that, either.

You don't know that, LIAR!

[Brown Deer]

[butterdezillion]

Anybody who thinks that making statements like that to “mess with my mind and encourage more conspiracy theorizing” would reflect well on a guy who is supposed to be credible and leading the State of Hawaii.... is more nuts than anybody he tries to frame.

If this is the kind of mind-game sh!t the American public accepts from our elected leaders, then we deserve everything we’re getting.

Rates right up there with doctors who would tell you that you have inoperable terminal cancer, put you through the chemo and radiation..... and then tell you it was all a joke to see if you would believe them.

Real funny. Ha ha. You’re cracking me up, Abercrombie.

There are some things that are above those Lilliputian games, and the nation’s security, the rule of law, the credibility of government, and the US Constitution are just a few.

I don’t believe for a minute that that’s what’s going on. I just want you to see just how sick all your claims appear to the sane people in this world - many of whom are waking up to see the problems and discrepancies we “birthers” have been talking about, because of Abercrombie’s bumbling around.