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Don't spin the Civil War
Washington Post ^ | 12.27.10 | E.J. DIONNE jR.

Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz

The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.

The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.

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To: rockrr
I thought that was a term of endearment that y’all used.

why only for Non S. . .

What with us getting all chummy and such...

Sorry, hate to break it to you esp. while you mourn for your own lost "dearie" . . . but not happening.

1,281 posted on 01/06/2011 12:32:07 PM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: Ditto
Do you really expect anyone to buy that line? Really?

You idiots bought the one about self flagellation, too. Need I say more.

Like most elitist libtards, you're so eager to prove how much smarter you are than everyone else that you end up leaving your selves wide open to exposure for the lilliputian thinkers that you really are.

BTW, I'll be looking for other ways to set you up, so, be on your toes. I'll give you a hint: it'll be one of the issues that you're emotionally attached to.

1,282 posted on 01/06/2011 12:36:38 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: mstar

Of course. I never for a moment doubted your insincerity. What a curious assortment of malcontents you Lost Cause Losers are.


1,283 posted on 01/06/2011 12:46:40 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr; mstar
I thought that was a term of endearment that y’all used. What with us getting all chummy and such...

Well, bless your heart, punkrr! Maybe you're not such a bad replacement for non-sequitur after all.

I've noticed that you're posting activity has increased an order of magnitude since NS got the zot. Coincidence?

BTW, when are you going to respond to post# 1090?

1,284 posted on 01/06/2011 12:48:43 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rockrr
I never for a moment doubted your insincerity.

Now rockrr don't you go tellin your lies . . . you know you always said I was just a "me too" (among other things).
1,285 posted on 01/06/2011 1:01:41 PM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: rockrr

I was trying to keep the comment he was posting to separate from his post to avoid confusion, but apparently created more than if I’d just left it the same.


1,286 posted on 01/06/2011 1:02:13 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thanks for the clarification.


1,287 posted on 01/06/2011 1:05:02 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr

I’ve been in all 57 states < ;-) > at one time or another and IMO there’s something neat to be found in all of them. I never particularly enjoyed summers in New Orleans or winters in Minneapolis but could still find beautiful scenery everywhere I go.
Maybe that’s why I’m so reluctant to see it carved up...
415 posted on Monday, May 24, 2010 7:36:45 PM by rockrr

There isn’t a part of this country that I dislike. As a matter of fact, although I have never been to north-east I don’t even think I’d dislike that ;-)
858 posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 5:02:34 PM by rockrr


1,288 posted on 01/06/2011 1:17:48 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: rockrr
No problem.

Getting back to the original subject of this thread; I'm hoping to finally get to Shiloh a week from this coming Monday or Tuesday. A couple of friends from work and I are planning to head down there on one of those two days, as they are the only two days this month that we are all off at the same time. We have been trying to get there since September, but something (either weather, illness, or a conflict in scheduling) has kept us from going. If I get there, I'll make sure I post some pictures.

1,289 posted on 01/06/2011 1:34:40 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Stonewall Jackson

I envy you the opportunity.


1,290 posted on 01/06/2011 1:37:41 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr

If you ever get the opportunity to get to this part of the country, give me a shout. I’ll be more than happy to give you a tour. I’m less than five hours from Mill Springs, Perryville, Fort Donelson, Shiloh, Stones River, Corinth, and Chattanooga/Chickamauga, as well as several smaller battlefields.


1,291 posted on 01/06/2011 1:48:51 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: cowboyway
You idiots bought the one about self flagellation, too.

Total BS. You were trying to sell that "African Ritual" crap just like your ignorance on the topic of slave revolts.

I'll give you a hint: it'll be one of the issues that you're emotionally attached to.

Lots of luck with that. You don't have a clue what I am emotionally attached to and it sure as hell isn't anything discussed on these CW threads. These are purely an intellectual exercise. I have no particular emotions on the topic. Just a desire to see your Lost Cause revisionist history discredited before it subverts any young minds full of mush.

1,292 posted on 01/06/2011 1:55:12 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Thanks for that. I really would like to take part on some form of sesquicentennial event. I’m not sure that I can steal away the time from work but I’m researching different events.


1,293 posted on 01/06/2011 2:07:45 PM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr
I see Desiree Thibodeau is after you again.

You better run boy...

1,294 posted on 01/06/2011 2:13:41 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Ditto
Total BS. You were trying to sell that "African Ritual" crap just like your ignorance on the topic of slave revolts.

Wow. You're a bigger idiot than I gave you credit for.

You don't have a clue what I am emotionally attached to

We'll see....

Just a desire to see your Lost Cause revisionist history discredited before it subverts any young minds full of mush.

A lot of shoes around here stepping in to fill the flip flops of the recently departed non-sequitur.

Well, since you're always harping about keeping to the topic, your sentence above is the perfect segue to the point of this thread. So, moving right along, precisely what 'Lost Cause revisionist history' are you trying to discredit?

1,295 posted on 01/06/2011 2:19:36 PM PST by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Ditto
You are the only one here directing that nonsense to me.

That's why we call him clownboy. His job is to distract you and draw your attention away from the main topic of discussion, much like a clown does to a bull at the rodeo.

He took over the position from stand watie a couple of years ago.

1,296 posted on 01/06/2011 2:31:18 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
is after you again.

in YOUR dreams ONLY mac_dirtyeye
1,297 posted on 01/06/2011 2:56:31 PM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: mac_truck
and don't bother to reply. . . like mojitojoe and others have already done. . . you are on my ignore list
1,298 posted on 01/06/2011 3:02:16 PM PST by mstar (Immediate State Action)
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To: Ditto
Lecompton was over three years after the Kansas-Nebraska Act......

How does that invalidate my statement? Or are you saying you like the interventing 1856 violence better, as a cause of the failure of the Kansas-Nebraska compromise? And there was a Free Soiler convention before Lecompton, at Topeka, in 1855, which wrote a Free Soil constitution and a code banning the presence of blacks in Kansas.

Why was Lecompton a bagatelle and illegitimate, but Topeka was not? Refresh my memory.

One of the reservations about popular sovereignty that Southerners took up with Douglas, btw, was that freesoilers would rush any new organized territory and declare it a free State before any slaveholders moved there, and the latter would hold back for fear of losing everything. Harry Jaffa, the Claremonster guru and Lincoln scholar, thinks Douglas was actually screwing the Southerners with popular sovereignty, and intended to do so.

And yes, Douglas thought that Lecompton, and Pres. Buchanan's acceptance of it despite the Kansas Free Soil voters' rejection, was a farce and a put-up job. So he repudiated Lecompton, but he didn't repudiate "popular sovereignty" as such, despite Lincoln's political claims in e.g. his "House Divided" speech in 1858.

Other than that, I'm not sure I take your point. Unless your point is actually something along the lines of, "LG is a stupid nuu-nuu and doesn't know squat and talks lies."

That what you had in mind?

1,299 posted on 01/06/2011 4:29:24 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Thank you.
1,300 posted on 01/06/2011 4:32:09 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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