Posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:54 AM PST by trumandogz
The Civil War is about to loom very large in the popular memory. We would do well to be candid about its causes and not allow the distortions of contemporary politics or long-standing myths to cloud our understanding of why the nation fell apart.
The coming year will mark the 150th anniversary of the onset of the conflict, which is usually dated to April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire at 4:30 a.m. on federal troops occupying Fort Sumter. Union forces surrendered the next day, after 34 hours of shelling.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
“...If (the federal government) never recognized secession what was the purpose for readmission (of the states that had seceded) to the union?...”
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Good Question.
No sarc. Keep it up. It’s always refreshing to read about the CW in the most anti-pc way.
I disagree that the ports in the North were entrepots of the slave trade, however Yankee the hulls and masters may have been. (One of Carolina secession advocate Robert Rhett's serial beeves was that the Carolina shipbuilding trade had all but vanished by the end of the 18th century, the trade monopolized by Yankee yards. Which, if it happened, warrants academic investigation. It might have been an example of "comparative advantage" .... or it might have been an example of Yankees being yankeefied. Every contemporary group that dealt with them extensively had a low opinion of New England Yankees except the Yankees themselves ..... that alone is worth a scholarly book.)
But you've put your finger on something that has engaged my curiosity for ten years now.
What was the degree of merchant and banking/banker/"bankster" motivation in the development of the political issues and parties -- Free Soil, Whig, Republican -- that polarized the country regionally and led to the onset of civil war (using the term "civil war" advisedly)?
Someone needs to do a massive investigation of old newspaper morgues, business and leading-family correspondence, and political figures' letter files in New York, Philadelphia, Boston, and other Yankee "opinion leadership" circles. I think that there they will find the smoking gun that killed a million people and the Framers' noble American Experiment, and supplanted it with a banker's paradise of imperial, centralized, centripetal, gradually totalitarianizing government.
- To: Non-Sequitur
zot 2,147 posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2010 4:29:15 PM by Jim Robinson
- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2644629/posts?page=2147#2147
Wow!!!! Christmas really did come early... woo hoo !!!!!!
I cannot recall anyone referring to it as the 'Civil War,' 'War Between the States,' 'the War of Northern Aggression.' I may have seen it referred to once as the 'great war,' but cannot swear to it.
Anecdotal at best. I am not claiming a universal truth.
“I can see the Black Racists and Bigots coming out and whining and lying about all Civil War.”
...yep, followed by an orgy of trying to lay a guilt trip on ole Whitey...followed by demands for apologies....followed by demands for money...lots of money.
....the WBTS freed blacks from their white owners...unfortunately, it never freed the whites from their former slaves...150 years later and we’re still providing housing and food for their descendants....and constantly being told that we need to do more for them.
and I have seen it referred to during the period of reconstruction as “the late unpleasantness”.
E.J. Dionne Jr. clearly doesn’t know the first thing about the subject and is, as usual, completely full of CRAP!
34 hours? That was a pretty long day.
Excellent post!
But the North was trying to take over the Southern State Governments, hence it was a Civil war.
I just know that when I go to bed at night, one of the things that I express thanks for is my having been born in the USA. Anyone who wishes not to be a part of this union, where we can express ourselves and effect change in our gov’t, should notice that there are no chains or fences that keep them here.
Your hero, Lincoln, put me in chains.
A virtual monarchy. What frightens me is the way that Obama intends to make law without legislative warrant, by officials not approved by the Senate. The Republicans needs to lie down in front of everything he does, and find ways to starve his agents, or keep them occupied by challenging every regulation. The secHHS should be kept in a committee room for the next two years.
Boo, effing, hoo.
Like I said, don’t let the screen door hit you on the way out.
Lincoln had nothing to do with the 14th, 15th, 16,17th Amendments.
It all started with a fellow named Hamilton and his British mercantile masters before the Constitution was even written.
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