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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: parsifal

I forgot to mention, I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii. At least until I see evidence to the contrary. I believe he used an Indonesian Passport to travel overseas, a clear indication he willingly was keeping and using the citizenship of another Nation, something that would ALSO take his NBC status from him. AND then there is all the records from college etc, that so many have surmised that he attended using financial aid as a foreign student.... its beginning to snowball now...

I also believe that he was never a Natural Born Citizen because he was born with two Nationalities. But in a very real way, those are separate issues. Its my personal belief that he isn’t an NBC because of that, but in a real way that is a historical debate that requires a judgment by SCOTUS to decide.

Combine all these things.... and Federal Marshals should be polishing the handcuffs and Joe should be polishing his first speech as POTUS.

IMHO


321 posted on 02/23/2010 6:04:47 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae
God help us! A ‘JoeBi’ POTUS speech.

And I totally concur with your Indonesian theory also. Why else would he keep ALL his records sealed from public consumption.

322 posted on 02/23/2010 6:12:04 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: Danae

Were the twins certificates signed by the same registrar?

Find that person.


323 posted on 02/23/2010 6:17:49 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Danae

We still would like to see Obama prove that he was born in Hawaii. We all know Obama could have received a Hawaiian birth certificate by a statement from a witness of his birth which was accepted by the DoH. Red flags would fly if that’s the case.


324 posted on 02/23/2010 6:24:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: parsifal
Yes "But, the long form would still have the Obama stuff on it, so the amended paperwork would be necessary to confirm your hunch."
Yes yes yes, the long form would have all the original information on it. His complete file would have all the information in it, just because it gets amended does not mean they throw anything out, they don't.

Then comes the quandary for big O. How to make himself appear legit enough to get elected? Ok can't release the real info because then Hawaii can release EVERYTHING, and he can't let that happen, at least not BEFORE the election. Once in office, he KNOWS it will take a LOT more effort to get him out. And maybe just maybe no one will figure it all out.

Ok, so, how about a real good Forgery, put up by a site related TO him but not endorsed directly BY him, a third party... yea, how about Annenberg's factcheck, it was started by conservatives but run now by progressive liberals, perfect. Nice, now "fightthesmears" can post this "third party" information and they they are just quoting some other source right? Not Barack DIRECTLY. Its masterful I tell ya.

So now there is a good forgery in the internet-o-sphere, but NOT the accurate information, a few details get changed so that HAWAII knows its fake, like AFRICAN in the race slot, and the incorrect Certificate number. BUT... because he WAS born in Hawaii, Hawaii CAN say that they have SEEN his records with out giving out any information about them. Obama has NOT given them permission to say anything about it, the REAL information has in no way been compromised by the forgery that would allow the state out of that Statute - Obama has NOT released any of his real information. Neither has Factcheck! That's been speculated on for a while now, that the document posted there is a fake. The Numbers and Okubo's email pretty much pound that nail into the coffin.

This is what has lead me to believe that the FactCheck doc is fake. Hawaii is continuing to say it is bound by their laws - they can't talk about, and THEY ARE CORRECT in ONLY one scenario: The FactCheck Document is a forgery.

Obama has NEVER released any LEGITIMATE information proving that he is a Citizen, let alone a Natural Born one, he has through second and third parties posted a forgery.
325 posted on 02/23/2010 6:29:03 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: fanfan

No way to know with out seeing his Long Form.


326 posted on 02/23/2010 6:35:00 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: patlin

I know.... (shudder) but at least Joe is NOT a student and teacher of Alinski. At least he isn’t a Marxist communist out to “Fundamentally change” America.

I will take the lesser of two evils. Besides at least HE is a Natural Born Citizen and would return our government to being FORCED to abide by the constitution, something under Obama it isn’t obliged to do. Since he is breaking the constitution, none of them are bound by it.


327 posted on 02/23/2010 6:47:47 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: mojitojoe
"The should check under Barry Soetoro too."

I'm curious, has anyone found a reference to the name "Barack Obama" before college? I've seen Barry Obama in his high school yearbook and Barry Soetoro from his Indonesian school registration but not Barack. The birth announcements don't give a name either. Maybe I'm missing it.....
328 posted on 02/23/2010 6:57:24 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (If the constitutional eligibility of the president is not a "winning issue," then our nation is lost)
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To: EnderWiggins; All

Oh, Wiggie. You're playing so naive. Don't pretend like you've never been around a habitual liar like Obama before. He thought he beat the Barry Soetoro thing until an industrious AP photographer stumbled across some long-forgotten records he forgot to cover up:

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An industrious legal eagle weasel like yourself can figure out how a charismatic, smooth-talking, well-financed “law professor” like Obama might exploit HRS §338 to his benefit.

There's lots of loopholes to be sure. Here's JUST a few:

[§338-14.3] Verification in lieu of a certified copy. (a) Subject to the requirements of section 338-18, the department of health, upon request, shall furnish to any applicant, in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy, a verification of the existence of a certificate and any other information that the applicant provides to be verified relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.

(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.

§338-15 Late or altered certificates. A person born in the State may file or amend a certificate after the time prescribed, upon submitting proof as required by rules adopted by the department of health. Certificates registered after the time prescribed for filing by the rules of the department of health shall be registered subject to any evidentiary requirements that the department adopts by rule to substantiate the alleged facts of birth.

Attorney General Opinions: Section provides for the alteration of only birth certificates. Att. Gen. Op. 84-14.

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

§338-16 Procedure concerning late and altered birth certificates. (a) Birth certificates registered one year or more after the date of birth, and certificates which have been altered after being filed with the department of health, shall contain the date of the late filing and the date of the alteration and be marked distinctly “late” or “altered”.

(b) A summary statement of the evidence submitted in support of the acceptance for late filing or the alteration shall be endorsed on the certificates.

(c) Such evidence shall be kept in a special permanent file.

§338-17 Late or altered certificate as evidence. The probative value of a “late” or “altered” certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence.

§338-17.5 Judicial procedure to establish facts of birth. (a) If a delayed certificate of birth is rejected under section 338-16, a petition may be filed with the circuit court for an order establishing a record of the date and place of the birth and the parentage of the person whose birth is to be registered.

(b) The petition shall be accompanied by a statement of the registration official made in accordance with section 338-16(d) and all documentary evidence which was submitted to the registration official in support of such registration.

(c) The court shall fix a time and place for hearing the petition and shall give the registration official who refused to register the petitioner’s delayed certificate of birth fifteen days’ notice of said hearing. Such official, or the official’s authorized representative, may appear and testify in the proceeding.

(d) If the court from the evidence presented finds that the person for whom a delayed certificate of birth is sought was born in this State, it shall make findings as to the place and date of birth, parentage, and such other findings as the case may require and shall issue an order to establish a record of birth.

(e) The clerk of the court shall forward a copy of the order to the state registrar of vital statistics not later than the 10th day of the calendar month following the month in which it was entered. Such order shall be registered by the state registrar of vital statistics in accordance with section 338-13.

§338-17.7 Establishment of new certificates of birth, when. (a) The department of health shall establish, in the following circumstances, a new certificate of birth for a person born in this State who already has a birth certificate filed with the department and who is referred to below as the “birth registrant”:

(1) Upon receipt of an affidavit of paternity, a court order establishing paternity, or a certificate of marriage establishing the marriage of the natural parents to each other, together with a request from the birth registrant, or the birth registrant’s parent or other person having legal custody of the birth registrant, that a new birth certificate be prepared because previously recorded information has been altered pursuant to law;

(2) Upon receipt of a certified copy of a final order, judgment, or decree of a court of competent jurisdiction that determined the nonexistence of a parent and child relationship between a person identified as a parent on the birth certificate on file and the birth registrant;

(3) Upon receipt of a certified copy of a final adoption decree, or of an abstract of the decree, pursuant to sections 338-20 and 578-14;

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

§338-20 Adoption. (a) In case of the adoption of any person born in the State, the department of health, upon receipt of a properly certified copy of the adoption decree, or certified abstract thereof on a form approved by the department, shall prepare a supplementary certificate in the name of the adopted person, as fixed or changed by the decree, and seal and file the original certificate of birth with the certified copy attached thereto.

(b) The registrar of births shall show on the supplemental birth certificate the names of parents as stated in the adoption decree pursuant to section 578-14.

(c) Any certified copy of final decree of adoption, or abstract thereof, of persons born in the State, rendered by courts of other states and territories subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, or courts of a foreign country, shall be considered properly certified when attested by the clerk of the court in which it was rendered with the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the presiding judge, chancellor, or magistrate that the attestation is in due form.

(d) If no original certificate of birth shall be on file with the department, the department may require such evidence as it deems necessary to establish the facts of birth before preparing a supplementary certificate in the new name of the adopted person; provided that no such certificate shall be filed unless it shall be satisfactorily established that the adopted person was born in the State.

(e) The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. Upon receipt of a certified copy of a court order setting aside a decree of adoption, the department shall restore the original certificate to its original place in the files.

§338-20.5 Adoption; foreign born persons.

(a) The department of health shall establish a Hawaii certificate of birth for a person born in a foreign country and for whom a final decree of adoption has been entered in a court of competent jurisdiction in Hawaii, when it receives the following:

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(d) If no original certificate of birth shall be on file with the department, the department may require such evidence as it deems necessary to establish the facts of birth before preparing a supplementary certificate in the new name of the adopted person; provided that no such certificate shall be filed unless it shall be satisfactorily established that the adopted person was born in the State.

(e) The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. Upon receipt of a certified copy of a court order setting aside a decree of adoption, the department shall restore the original certificate to its original place in the files.

329 posted on 02/23/2010 6:58:25 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Danae; BuckeyeTexan

Well, I been doing this:

Ode to Orly Taitz

by the Freeper, parsifal

Mississippio Countrio

It was late February, and the year it was twenty ten.
I was surfing on line, slurping down a little lime and gin.
Well I was scrolling all around when the words flashed upon the screen.
And it nearly laid me out, now let me tell you what I seen.
Well it was something out of Outer Limits, something off of the Deep End.
Today, Orly Taitz, the Birther Queen, went seeking help at the U.N.

Well my glasses fogged over and I nearly had a heart attack
I even sent that b*tch some money and I wonder “Can I get it back?”.
I backed her up when she lied all about that African Bee Cee.
I even backed up her the second time, “Man, what is wrong with me?”
Guess she was playing some game that I just couldn’t comprehend....
Now you tell me, Orly Taitz, appealed it all up to the U.N.

When the case got dismissed down in Florida, should have been a clue.
Then, California, man you know it’s standing now at O and 2
Then that Judge done went and handed her a twenty thousand dollar fine
I guess I should have seen it then, you know the case was kinda asinine
But I hung in there while she was sleeping with her boy friend
And now Orly Taitz is begging for protection, “Pretty Please! U.N.”

Well looking back on it all, I guess she kind of took me for a ride.
Using all that legal talk, made it seem somehow so bona fide.
And with all of the problems that she had, it should be no surprise.
Certificate of Live Birth, man I wish I had believed my eyes.
And the birth announcements too, I wish that I could kick my own rear end!
And now you tell me Orly Taitz is hauling *ss to hide at the U.N.

parsy, who says Enjoy! It can be played in 7ths as I recall but I’ll double check


330 posted on 02/23/2010 7:25:44 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: butterdezillion

Ping


331 posted on 02/23/2010 7:29:30 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: Danae
ROFL !!! Just don't go here ...


332 posted on 02/23/2010 7:30:05 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Red Steel
Check this out from http://obamacrimes.com/?p=376

BadFiction – “The Indonesian Citizenship Myth”

http://badfiction.typepad.com/badfiction/the-indonesian-citizenship-myth.html

The Indonesian Citizenship Myth

I have read this post in detail and must say, with all due respect, I disagree.  Some very important parts were left out, which I do not believe was intentional.  Thus, I would like to respond accordingly.

First, I am unsure as to where badfiction obtained the Indonesian laws, I’m unsure as to the dates, etc.  However, there are discrepancies.

Badfiction is correct in stating that if a woman married a foreign citizen they would have lost their U.S. citizenship status if married prior to September 22, 1922.  However, there is more to this, see 8 U.S.C. Section 1435(a)(2) which states “on or after September 22, 1922, a women who lost United States citizenship by marriage to an alien ineligible to citizenship…”  However, Indonesia also required Stanley Ann Dunham to relinquish her U.S. Citizenship, which is an affirmative act, therefore, Stanley Ann Dunham did not simply lose her U.S. Citizenship status by marriage alone.

Badfiction claims that a parent cannot expatriate a child’s U.S. citizenship, however, this is not correct.   See The Nationality Act of 1940, revised 1952, Section 318(a)  “A former citizen of the United States expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents and who has not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents may be naturalized upon filing a petition for naturalization before reaching age of twenty-five years and upon compliance with all requirements of the naturalization laws with the following exceptions:  (b) No former citizen of the United States, expatriated through the expatriation of such person’s parent or parents shall be obliged to comply with the requirements of the immigration laws, if he has not not acquired the nationality of another country by any affirmative act other than the expatriation of his parent or parents, and if he has come or shall come to the United States before reaching the age of twenty-five years.  (c) After his naturalization such person shall have the same citizenship status as if he had not been expatriated.”

Renewing an Indonesian Passport after the age of 18 is an affirmative act, as you are swearing allegiance to another Country.  Soetoro/Obama renewed his Indonesian Passport when he traveled to Pakistan, that is why he had to stop in Indonesia first.  Remember, in 1981, Dunham was divorcing Soetoro in Hawaii and was not in Indonesia.  Obama/Soetoro admits to traveling to Indonesia first and then onto Pakistan.  Soetoro/Obama claims in his book “Dreams from my father” that he stopped in Indonesia to visit his mother.  But again, his mother was not in Indonesia, she was in Hawaii with Maya, divorcing Lolo Soetoro.  In addition, the State Department has stated in response to a FOIA request that they do not have a U.S. Passport application on file for  Barack H. Obama.

Despite the above however, Indonesia required Obama/Soetoro to do a bit more upon his 18th birthday.  In fact the Indonesian law gives until the age of 21.  Soetoro/Obama would have had to sign an Affidavit relinquishing his Indonesian citizenship and said Affidavit had to be sent to the Indonesian Government before reclaiming any U.S. citizenship he may have once held.

When it comes to the citizenship of  individuals in other countries, we are prevented from interfering, Hague Convention 1930. Speaking of Indonesia, during the late 60’s all the way up until 2006 Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.  In 2006 they changed their laws to permit dual citizenship, however, Indonesia has had its battles with enforcing their new law permitting dual citizenship.

With this said, from the research we have done, it appears that Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen.  When Soetoro/Obama was approximately four (4) years old his parents divorced and thereafter, Soetoro/Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia.  Evidence points to the fact that Lolo Soetoro either signed a government form legally “acknowledging” Soetoro/Obama as his son or “adopted” Soetoro, either of which changed any citizenship status Soetoro/Obama had to a “natural” citizen of Indonesia.

At the time Barry Soetoro was in Indonesia, all Indonesian students were required to carry government identity cards or Karty Tanda Pendudaks, as well as family card identification called a Kartu Keluarga.  The Kartu Keluarga is a family card which bears the legal names and citizenship status of all family members.

Soetoro/Obama was registered in a public school as an Indonesian citizen by the name of Barry Soetoro and his father was listed as Lolo Soetoro, M.A.  Indonesia did not allow foreign students to attend their public schools in the late 1960’s or 1970’s, and any time a child was registered for a public school, the child’s name and citizenship status were verified through the Indonesian Government.  See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Chapter 13, Law No. 62 of 1958 (all citizens of Indonesia have a right to education).  The Indonesian school record, indicates that Soetoro/Obama’s name is “Barry Soetoro;” his nationality is “Indonesia” and his father “Lolo Soetoro, M.A.  There was no way for Soetoro/Obama to have attended school in Jakarta, Indonesia legally unless he was an Indonesian citizen, as Indonesia was under tight rule and was a Police State.  See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia (Undang-Undang Dasar Republik Indonesia 1945), Law No. 62 of 1958.  These facts indicate that Obama/Soetoro is an Indonesian citizen, and therefore he is not eligible to be President of the United States.

Under Indonesian law, when a male acknowledges a child as his son, it deems the son, in this case Soetoro/Obama, an Indonesian State citizen.  See Constitution of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 62 of 1958 concerning Immigration Affairs and Indonesian Civil Code (Kitab Undang-undang Hukum Perdata) (KUHPer) (Burgerlijk Wetboek voor Indonesie).

Furthermore, under the Indonesian adoption law, once an Indonesian citizen adopts a child, the adoption severs the child’s relationship to the birth parents, and the adopted child is given the same status as a natural child and the child takes the name of his step-father, in this case, Soetoro. See Indonesian Constitution, Article 2.

The Indonesian citizenship law was designed to prevent apatride (stateless) or bipatride (dual) citizenship.  Indonesian regulations recognized neither apatride nor bipatride (stateless or dual) citizenship.  Since Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship; neither did the United States (since the United States only permitted dual citizenship when ‘both’ countries agree); and since Obama/Soetoro was a “natural” citizen of Indonesia, the United States would not step in or interfere with the laws of Indonesia.  Hague Convention of 1930.

As a result of Soetoro/Obama’s Indonesian “natural” citizenship status, Soetoro/Obama could never regain U.S. “natural born” status, if he in fact he ever held such, which we doubt.  Soetoro/Obama could have only become “naturalized” if the proper paperwork were filed with the U.S. State Department, after going through U.S. Immigration upon his return to the United States; in which case, Soetoro/Obama would have received a Certification of Citizenship indicating “naturalized.”

We are informed, believe and thereon allege Obama/Soetoro was never naturalized in the United States after his return.  Soetoro/Obama was ten (10) years old when he returned to Hawaii to live with his grandparents.  Soetoro/Obama’s mother did not return with him.  Therefore, it appears that she did not apply for citizenship for Soetoro/Obama in the United States.  If citizenship for Soetoro/Obama had been applied for in 1971, Soetoro/Obama would have a Certification of Citizenship.  If Soetoro/Obama returned in 1971 to Hawaii without going through U.S. Immigration, today he would be an “illegal alien” – and obviously not able to serve as President, but also his term as a United States Senator from Illinois for nearly four (4) years was illegal.  We further believe Soetoro might have reentered the United States at age ten (10) by showing a copy of his Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth, which he received when his birth was registered in Hawaii.

In addition, we have been unable to locate any legal documents wherein Soetoro’s name was legally changed from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.  Soetoro/Obama’s silence on these issues is deafening and his refusal to release such records to prove that none of this occurred results in his status as Acting Commander in Chief at best, and a willful action on his part to deceive the American People and the Armed Forces of the United States so that he may wield power that is in non-compliance with the United States Constitution.


333 posted on 02/23/2010 7:30:23 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: parsifal

“Times now are not as they were when the previous decisions on this subject were made.” — Missouri Supreme Court 1852


334 posted on 02/23/2010 7:30:53 PM PST by bvw
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To: Red Steel

Now wrap your noodle around this!!!! No wonder Title III was wiped off the internet!!:

From PDF page 285, http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/sal/066_statutes_at_large.pdf

FORMER CITIZENS OF UNITED STATES REGAINING UNITED STATES
CITIZENSHIP
SEC. 324. (a) Any person formerly a citizen of the United States
who (1) prior to September 22, 1922, lost United States citizenship
by marriage to an alien, or by the loss of United States citizenship of
such person’s spouse, or (2) on or after September 22, 1922, lost United
States citizenship by marriage to an alien ineligible to citizenship .
may if no other nationality was acquired by an affirmative act of such
person other than by marriage be naturalized upon compliance with
all requirements of this title, except-
(1) no period of residence or specified period of physical presence
within the United States or within the State where the
petition is filed shall be required ;
(2) the petition need not set forth that it is the intention of the
petitioner to reside permanently within the United States ;
(3) the petition may be filed in any court having naturalization
jurisdiction, regardless of the residence of the petitioner ;
66 STAT .J
PUBLIC LAW 414-JUNE 27, 1952
(4) the petition may be heard at any time after filing if there
is attached to the petition at the time of filing a certificate from a
naturalization examiner stating that the petitioner and the witnesses
have appeared before such examiner for examination .
Such person, or any person who was naturalized in accordance with
the provisions of section 317 (a) of the Nationality Act of 1940, shall
have, from and after her naturalization, the status f a native-born or
naturalized citizen of the United States, whichever status existed in
the case of such person prior to the loss of citizenship : Provided,
That nothing contained herein or in any other provision of law shall
be construed as conferring United States citizenship retroactively
upon such person, or upon any person who was naturalized in accordance
with the provisions of section 317 (a) of the Nationality Act of
1940, during any period in which such person was not a citizen .
(b) No person who is otherwise eligible for naturalization in accordance
with the provisions of subsection (a) of this section shall be
naturalized unless such person shall establish to the satisfaction of the
naturalization court that she has been a person of good moral character,
attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States,
and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United
States for a. period of not less than five years immediately preceding
the date of filing a petition for naturalization and up to the time
of admission to citizenship, and, unless she has resided continuously
in the United States since the date of her marriage, has been lawfully
admitted for permanent residence prior to filing her petition for
naturalization .
(c) (1) A woman who was a citizen of the United States at birth
and (A) who has or is believed to have lost her United States citizenship
solely by reason of her marriage prior to September 22, 1922, to an
alien, or by her marriage on or after such date to an alien ineligible
to citizenship, (B) whose marriage to such alien shall have terminated
subsequent to January 12, 1941, and (C) who has not acquired by an
affirmative act other than by marriage any other nationality, shall,
from and after taking the oath of allegiance required by section 337
of this title, be a citizen of the United States and have the status f a
citizen of the United States by birth, without filing a petition for
naturalization, and notwithstanding any of the other provisions of this
title except the provisions of section 313 : Provided, That nothing
contained herein or in any other provision of law shall be construed as
conferring United States citizenship retroactively upon such person,
or upon any person who was naturalized in accordance with the
provisions of section 317 (b) of the Nationality Act of 1940, during
any period in which such person was not a citizen .
(2) Such oath of allegiance may be taken abroad before a diplomatic
or consular officer of the United States, or in the United States
before the judge or clerk of a naturalization court .
(3) Such oath of allegiance shall be entered in the records of the
appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, or naturalization court, and,
upon demand, a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy
of the oath administered, under the seal of the embassy, legation,
consulate, or naturalization court, shall be delivered to such woman at
a cost not exceeding $5, which certified copy shall be evidence of the
facts stated therein before any court of record or judicial tribunal and
in any department or agency of the Government of the United States .
54 Stat . 8 USC 71171.46 .
247
Additional requirements
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Oath of allegiance
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335 posted on 02/23/2010 7:43:08 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: STARWISE

They are flame proof and bunch proof, NO cling with no lines!

Don’t ask me how I got them..... (Psssssst the spork weasels are watching lol)


336 posted on 02/23/2010 7:44:42 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

Hehehe ... words, full of sound and
fury .. signifying NOTHING!


337 posted on 02/23/2010 7:45:46 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Danae

Another way of looking at it is that since the basis of SR511 is that two US citizen parents are required to be a natural born citizen and Hussein voted yes agreeing with that, it puts Hussein on the public record proclaiming that it’s impossible for him to ever be a natural born citizen. That’s a clear and obvious admission from Hussein himself that he is a criminal usurper who is occupying the office of President illegally and fraudulently.

His presence in the White House is nothing short of an act of war against we the people. He can’t keep his ineligibility quiet forever with it being as public record as it is.


338 posted on 02/23/2010 7:51:56 PM PST by LWEpatriot (Constitution Derangement Syndrome is the prerequisite for accepting Hussein as president)
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To: LWEpatriot; onyx; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...
He can’t keep his ineligibility quiet forever with it being as public record as it is.

~~~~

The truth WILL come out .. it always does. I believe there will be a "Blue Dress" moment in this immeasurably confounding and fraudulent blight on our precious America. Lord, protect us.

339 posted on 02/23/2010 8:08:57 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Danae

Since Obama married Michelle in 1992 in Chicago prior to 2006 shouldn’t he have had to show his birth certificate then at the courthouse to file for a marriage license? Has anyone ever looked up the marriage records for them in chicago instead of Hawaii that might show a copy of his BC?


340 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:14 PM PST by U.S. Army Retired
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