DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

But the person in question must have first met the Article II sec. 1 clause 5 conditions for eligibility for the office.

It says right there in black and white, whoever has the most votes for President shall be the President.

Any issues with regard to eligibility were clearly left to the political process. That that process may not have done as thorough a job as you would have liked doesn't change the fact that Obama is President and to date, no constitutional authority has deemed otherwise.

[El Gato]

Not without having received the greatest number of votes for President they couldn't.

True, but also not without being a Natural Born Citizen. The Constitution sets out many requirements. All must be met.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

And you figured that February 17, 1964 would be a great date for your hoax all in an afternoon? That would be impressive, if true.

Didn't take an afternoon. Just took a few minutes on Google to find out when Stanley filed for divorce.

[Darksheare]

That does NOT negate the previous requirements of the office.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

[Darksheare]

But you amnd Ender Wiggins have been caught lying previously.
So why should we believe that?

[STARWISE]

It appears that BP2’s comment #2824 on this thread is the original source of the story. Is BP2 an Obot?

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ROFL!!!

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Lucas Smith says your document is not the one he obtained in Kenya and brought to Orly. Fred Nerks agrees and he knows as much about all this as anyone here. Can you disprove their statements?

Huh?

[KenyanBCPunkster]

True, but also not without being a Natural Born Citizen. The Constitution sets out many requirements. All must be met.

And those involved in the political process obviously felt that they were met. Not one elector withheld a vote nor did a single person in Congress raise any issue when the votes were counted and certified.

[DJ MacWoW]

, whoever has the most votes for President shall be the President.

If Mickey Mouse got the most votes, would that make him President? If Putin got the most votes, would that make him President? If Ahnold got the most votes, would that make him President? NO! Why? THEY DON'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS!

[browardchad]

I have no idea what their game is but who searches through over 2000 posts and then claims a fictional post/ story is an article?

Citizen Wells, apparently.

Go look for a fight somewhere else.

I'm not looking for a fight. There's a lot of people scratching their heads out there about this.

Wouldn't it be better to clear it up, instead of calling people who aren't Obots, names?

[DJ MacWoW]

Not one elector withheld a vote

Electors are elected because they VOTE PARTY LINES. It is a political reward.

Dude! Have you EVER actually READ any of this stuff? It is VERY rare that an elector didn't vote as they were told. It doesn't happen.

nor did a single person in Congress

A DEM controlled Congress is going to object?! WHERE are you from?!

[KenyanBCPunkster]

That does NOT negate the previous requirements of the office.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?

No, it doesn't negate requirements. But what it does do is establish who is in fact President and therefor how they may be removed from office.

[DJ MacWoW]

There's a lot of people scratching their heads out there about this.

You can post over there and explain it. I chose not to do so.

Wouldn't it be better to clear it up,

Some nut found a post on FR that was clearly labeled fiction. BP2 even had fiction in bold. What's there to clear up? A post was misused. Jim knew about it and just laughed. Case closed.

[DJ MacWoW]

But what it does do is establish who is in fact President and therefor how they may be removed from office.

IF they are actually the President. The Constitutiona details how a President may be removed. It does NOT list how to remove someone that doesn't meet therequirements. IF the "elected" do not meet the requirements, they are NOT President no matter HOW much hocus pocus jibber jabber goes on.

[El Gato]

You're putting your cart before the horse here.

So you are saying "become President first" then worry about eligibility? Hm, so I guess the Grand Ayatollah's son could come run under a false name and that would be fine with you. He'd *be* President, if only "He Won".

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Dude! Have you EVER actually READ any of this stuff? It is VERY rare that an elector didn't vote as they were told. It doesn't happen.

That doesn't change the fact that no elector withheld their vote.

A DEM controlled Congress is going to object?! WHERE are you from?!

All that's required for an objection is ONE member of the House and ONE member of the Senate.

[Seizethecarp]

“You seem to completely miss the whole point of making the original TIF image file available. And that was that the original TIF image file has never been made available to the public until now.

“And the reason it's available now is because I'm the one who created the document and took the photograph.”

You claim that your release of your higher resolution TIF image file for the first time is proof that you are the originator of Orly's lower resolution JPEG file because you could not have a higher resolution image unless you were the creator.

Yet sophisticated add-on image resolution enhancement algorithm software is widely available for PostScript. What would prevent the possibility of you taking Orly's JPEG image, then enhancing it, i.e. boosting the resolution to a very high degree with multiple passes with the enhancement software, then creating a TIF image of that enhanced image of Orly's image, and the releasing that TIG image to us here at FR?

Here is the promo for an example of the type of software I am referring to:

http://www.soft3k.com/Topaz-Vivacity-p7489.htm

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Topaz Vivacity works with Adobe Photoshop and most of software that support Photoshop plug-ins.

[Natural Born 54]

I am not proposing to give them anything unless you think they do not have a copy of Orly’s original untainted image.

[El Gato]

You're putting your cart before the horse here.

You are the one with it backwards. Eligibility, other than getting the majority of the electoral college votes is outside the political process. Selecting electors is within it. The Legislatures of the states, political bodies, appoint the electors. The other requirements to be President are just that, Requirements. Absolute requirements at that.

[danamco]

You have a “catchy tag name.” Where do you come from and who told you about F.R.???