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Judge questions Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth certificate in hearing ...
Ledger Enquirer ^ | Sept. 14, 2009 | CHUCK WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/14/2009 1:33:00 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen

During a hearing in U.S. District Court Monday, an attorney for an Army officer fighting deployment to Iraq questioned Barack Obama’s legal right to serve as president, asserting he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

Judge Clay Land, inquisitive throughout the 90-minute hearing, said he will issue a decision on Capt. Connie Rhodes’ request for a temporary restraining order by noon Wednesday.

Rhodes was represented by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and a national figure in the “birther” movement that claims Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.

California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.

Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.

“There was a lack of any reference to Capt. Rhodes,” Ausprung said. “This case is about Capt. Rhodes and her deployment.”

Taitz kept going back to Obama’s birth certificate. Twice she called Obama a “usurper.”

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To: SaraJohnson

No, I didn’t. I’ve been there a few times. What can we talk about in the smokey back room? lol


261 posted on 09/14/2009 9:36:42 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: pissant
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262 posted on 09/14/2009 9:37:44 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Labyrinthos

Obama has to sign off on ANY deployment orders. Like the new 21,000 troops for Afghanistan, for instance.
Likewise, he has to sign off on any special ops assignments and acts. Like Somalia for instance.
Lest you forget, an ABSENCE of the president signing off on an order caused the abortion of the hit on osama bin laden....BEFORE 9/11.


263 posted on 09/14/2009 9:41:56 PM PDT by MestaMachine (One if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by Air Force 1.)
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To: mojitojoe

This thread about Orly and the Kenyan’s NBC problems is a smokey back room classification. I learned they only serve beer in here.


264 posted on 09/14/2009 11:20:15 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SvenMagnussen

““Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz.”

All Rhodes has to do is disobey the Army order. If they Court Martial her, then the burden of proof falls on Obama. Game over, cos he can’t produce a US birth certificate. The Judge can be as pernickety as he wants, but he should know that this case is going to keep coming back to him till Obama fails to prove his Natural Born Citizen status. Moreover, the chain of command is criminalising itself, if they have good reason to believe that their orders are from an illegal source.


265 posted on 09/14/2009 11:23:24 PM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: mojitojoe
Is that Larry Sinclair on the right? (sarc)
266 posted on 09/14/2009 11:41:14 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: wintertime; mojitojoe

And the dude on the couch he’s snuggling with is a Pakistani, who was (is?) a drug dealer, and now lives in Seattle involved with local theater. Ahem.


267 posted on 09/15/2009 12:42:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Red Steel
Second, we can chew gun and walk at the same time... that means we can take on many issues at the same time

Others may be able to. You seem to be a one trick pony.

268 posted on 09/15/2009 4:03:53 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Red Steel
That’s you in the picture a self portrait.

No, that's you or pissant, one of the two. Hard to tell with the features hidden like they are.

269 posted on 09/15/2009 4:04:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Gato
You're the one who said he provided it. I just wondered who he provided it to.

Well he put it on a website so one might say he provided it to everyone...and no one.

270 posted on 09/15/2009 4:05:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; El Gato
Well he put it on a website so one might say he provided it to everyone...and no one.

What website???

271 posted on 09/15/2009 4:21:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Aurorales

Very well said.


272 posted on 09/15/2009 5:18:58 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: normanpubbie
"As I understand Amendment XX, the qualification challenge period of clause two of the amendment ends the day the new presidential term begins. Or to put it into contemporary slang, that train left the station on January 20th, 2009."

Read section three again.

”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

It PLAINLY states that a qualification is met OR the Vice President is President until a "qualified" President is chosen by Congress. It doesn't say "Congress can ignore this provision and allow the "unqualified" President elect to be sworn into office."

Obama either has met the eligibility requirements with a legitimate birth certificate or he is a usurper, and this provision is being ignored by Congress. If he is not legal, he is not President and is not entitled to any legal protection the office itself might afford him.

273 posted on 09/15/2009 5:27:01 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: mojitojoe; Non-Sequitur; Red Steel; LucyT; BP2; MHGinTN; Las Vegas Ron; rodguy911; pissant

probably because most of FR has your number and all you do is come here to fight. Keep it up, it makes it easier to prove you are here to contribute nothing to the BC threads, only to cause fights and mods and JR don’t like that too much.





I noticed it awhile back... and just stuck to my usual rule of, "don't feed the trolls".

274 posted on 09/15/2009 5:41:31 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Uncle Chip
What website???

Well the COLB is available at dozens of sites now, but my hazy recollection was that he originally posted it on his campaign site. Is that wrong?

275 posted on 09/15/2009 5:44:52 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Gato

I understand that the plaintiff normally bears the burden of proof. But this is a case where the defendant (Obama) has blocked or seeks to block access to decisive evidence (his long form BC and/or other documents) that would establish or negate his constitutional qualification as NBC to be POTUS.


276 posted on 09/15/2009 5:59:57 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Bikkuri; All
We have a huge troll problem here on Fr.

In all fairness the mods have gotten much better as of late. They boot out the new ones really quick which is what we need.

The problem is the long time duds like non-sense-itor and several others.

For some reason if they have an entry date that goes way back they get pass after pass.

Hopefully, as things heat up and we need all the cooperation we can get here on FR, the mods will take care of these age old problems as well.

277 posted on 09/15/2009 6:06:51 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: rodguy911
The problem is the long time duds like non-sense-itor and several others.

I gave up recognizing, responding or getting involved in any discussions with them. Worked for me, even though I get tempted, but YMMV.

278 posted on 09/15/2009 6:10:56 AM PDT by IrishPennant (Where is my much anticipated Obama Opus?)
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To: IrishPennant
That is the best way no doubt. But, IMHO, the mods need to know that sooner or sooner they need to take care of the problem of the long time trolls.

FR is a key website in the fight to keep the country free from the commies. We don't need a-holes mucking it up day after day. And, some of the heavy hitters that view this site don't want to wade through it either.

279 posted on 09/15/2009 6:24:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: rodguy911

It actually gave me a headache (literally) having to skip most of his posts...


280 posted on 09/15/2009 6:52:35 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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