Judge questions Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth certificate in hearing ...

Ledger Enquirer ^ | Sept. 14, 2009 | CHUCK WILLIAMS

[SvenMagnussen]

During a hearing in U.S. District Court Monday, an attorney for an Army officer fighting deployment to Iraq questioned Barack Obama’s legal right to serve as president, asserting he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

Judge Clay Land, inquisitive throughout the 90-minute hearing, said he will issue a decision on Capt. Connie Rhodes’ request for a temporary restraining order by noon Wednesday.

Rhodes was represented by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and a national figure in the “birther” movement that claims Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.

California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.

Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.

“There was a lack of any reference to Capt. Rhodes,” Ausprung said. “This case is about Capt. Rhodes and her deployment.”

Taitz kept going back to Obama’s birth certificate. Twice she called Obama a “usurper.”

[SaxxonWoods]

I wonder why we don’t seem to get any actual attorneys (Orly and perhaps OldDeckHand excepted) commenting about Obama’s eligibilty. There must be quite a few Freeper attorneys who could shed some light on the situation.

[SaxxonWoods]

“See post #115 which refers to the twentieth amendment, section three. It explicitly requires that the “President elect” must “qualify” or not be allowed to serve as President. Your Congressperson is not doing his job.”

I thought the Secretaries of each state had the job of certifying a presidential candidate as qualified. (I’m not an expert, so I could be wrong.)

[Non-Sequitur]

The answer is there is no law that he followed. All he had to do was lie to get his name on the ballot.

Then perhaps you can tell us what law he violated, butthead?

[El Gato]

And at the bottom of the article, it turns out that CPT Rhodes was at the hearing as the judge had ordered on Friday:

This is a surprise? Of course she was. The Army, through their attorney Major Ausprung, promised the judge that the Captain would be there.

The judge would not have taken kindly to the the Army's attorney if the Captain had been held in Kansas.

“Who has the burden of establishing that the president of the United States is not eligible to serve in his office?” Land asked Taitz. P> The judge pointed out that burden fell on Rhodes because she sought the restraining order to stop her deployment.<

But that does not mean that Rhodes has to supply all the proof on her, and her attorney's own hook. The easiest way for them to prove that would be to suponea the original Birth records, all of them, from Hawaii. Getting proof of documents from Kenya via normal diplomatic channels, when Obama's cousin Odinga, who Obama advised and campaigned forduring the most recent Kenyan election, is Prime Minister is more than just a bit problematic. Odinga's idea of the "rule of law" is to set his thugs loose to beat, burn and pillage when he lost the election for President of Kenya.

Odinga supporters after the election

O & O before the election

Photo above may have been taken on one of Obama's other trips to Kenya, not immediately preceeding the election.

[Non-Sequitur]

You are so authorative on law. I was wondering: Do you play a lawyer on TeeVee? ;)

No but I do occasionally stay at Holiday Inn Express.

[Red Steel]

NS is a troll. I’ll give you multiple posts of NS spinning away for the Dems and trying to marginalize the Conservatives. I’ll be back later got to run for now.

[Non-Sequitur]

I doubt that. You defend socialism and Obama.

And you have not interest in what the law says. It says what you want it to.

[pissant]

Section 1, Article 2, chinslurp.

[Non-Sequitur]

Am I getting warm?

Not even close.

[SpaceBar]

Orly Taitz’s courtroom antics ARE counter productive, and the BC is evidence in the more fundamental question of Obama’s constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President. My word choice may have been clumsy in my earlier post, but that's my meaning.

[Non-Sequitur]

Just because some other courts have ruled wrongly about standing in the issue, it doesn’t mean that is what will happen in this case.

So if 99 judges all rule that Taitz's plaintiffs have no standing then that means that all 99 are wrong?

99% of Freepers who pray for this situation to be righted, never say THEY KNOW what the outcome will be.

They should by now.

Why is it you think you know everything about this matter. And more importantly, why do you feel the need to tell us over and over and over again.

Why do you all feel the need to spout the same nonsense over and over and over again?

You have no idea what will happen in the future with these cases. None.

I'm pretty confident that I can predict the future in this one.

You just love to blindly throw monkey wrenches into the hopes and prayers of anyone interested in this subject.

You were aware that there is no Santa Claus or Easter Bunny, aren't you? Or did I just dash your hopes and dreams again?

[El Gato]

The point OUGHT to be that Obama has NOT shown proof of being born in Hawaii. That puts the burden on him, not on those who accuse him of Kenyan birth on the basis of questionable evidence.

Fraid not. Judge land pointed out to her that she, or more properly her client, is the one making the accusation, so the burden of proof rests with her.

That said, it doesn't mean that discovery won't be allowed for her to obtain that proof.

BTW, she only needs to prove that BHO is not a natural born citizen, not that he was born in Kenya and not necessarily that he was born in any other foreign country. Of course proving that he is not a citizen at all would probably be easier and more straightforward than proving lack of natural born status, since if one is not a citizen, one can hardly be a member of the subset of citizens who are natural born.

[El Gato]

What??? The Birth Certificate Controversy IS the central point that he has not proven he is qualified under the constitution to BE president....??

The Birth Certificate controversy is only a factor in proving lack of natural born status. It's not the whole enchilada.

With that, I think I'll go have some cheese enchiladas. :)

[BuckeyeTexan]

Can you clarify that comment? Was there previously a check box on the Arizona form for natural born citizenship that was removed in 2008? Was it removed for Obama and McCain or just Obama?

[rocco55]

Guys, Can we please BOYCOTT “NS” ? He is wasting so much of our time. You guys ‘know the score’ and ‘have the truth’ on your side. I suggest we do not honor NS with replies. Let’s concentrate on how we can ADVANCE our cause. This frivolous bantering and time consuming rebuttals with NS do nothing but serve to entertain him in his own corruption and deceit and distract us from out goal. Many have to sift through hundreds of his childish posts and our replies just to arrive at good suggestions and meaningful and edifying comments. Just a suggestion. Oh, we can add Drew68 to the list also. Respectfully submitted,

[Non-Sequitur]

You guys ‘know the score’ and ‘have the truth’ on your side.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

[XenaLee]

Oh looky! The usual lame, juvenile and anything-BUT-original name-calling.

Yep. You’ve just proven yourself to be a typical leftie troll. And not a very bright one, at that....tsk tsk.

[Non-Sequitur]

Section 1, Article 2, chinslurp.

OK. Obama provided his COLB. Case closed, right butthead? If not then why not? What law requires he do more?

[Non-Sequitur]

Oh looky! The usual lame, juvenile and anything-BUT-original name-calling.

Take a look at reply 95, which I was replying to. Does that mean that pissant is a typical lefty troll, too?

[mojitojoe]