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Rudy Giuliani Throws Hat Into 2008 Presidential Ring
Post Chronicle ^ | 2/1/07

Posted on 02/01/2007 5:41:39 AM PST by areafiftyone

According to a source close to The Giuliani campaign, Rudy Giuliani is throwing his hat into the ring.  The Hinzsight Report confirms, through a source close to the Giuliani campaign, that he is presently sending people out into all 50 states to secure his name on the primary ballots.

"Despite Mayor Giuliani's public cautiousness, this is evidence that he is seriously pursuing the Presidency in 2008, and he should be taken very seriously. 

Critical state polls have shown Mayor Giuliani leading the pack, and it's about time that he start being considered what he is--the front-runner" a source tells The Hinzsight Report.

Giuliani has lined up nearly 300 key Republican supporters in New Jersey for his bid for the 2008 presidential nomination, his campaign announced this week.

In a recent Quinnipiac University poll of New Jersey voters, it showed Giuliani leading all Republican presidential candidates and ahead of Sen. Hillary Clinton, the leading Democratic contender, in a head-to-head matchup.

The New Jersey primary, which is currently set for Feb. 26, is likely to move up to Feb. 5, placing it early in the campaign season and increasing its significance.  As many as 15 states could hold their Republican presidential primaries Feb. 5, reports Gannett.



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To: Spiff

And add Rick Santorum to that list of social conservatives who lost their re-election in 2006.


1,021 posted on 02/02/2007 6:25:58 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

All of which proves my point, not yours. Sorry.


1,022 posted on 02/02/2007 6:27:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Beagle8U
Where I live I can only get those voters to the polls on the guns, abortion, and gay issues. ( the gay stuff is also a religious issue).

It's early, but I'm betting that isn't true.

From what I'm hearing of Rudy, he's got the potential to win those folks over. He's got a proven track record of managing a difficult govt structure. He's tough on crime, terror, defense. He's a stirring speaker.

When the Rudy train gets rolling, I bet things will turn. He's not going to do anything negative on abortion, it doesn't seem. He'll have to promise not to grab guns, which I think he will.

That leaves just gays. And if some folks are so homophobic they would vote against someone like Rudy on just that . . . well, you can't please everyone.

1,023 posted on 02/02/2007 6:40:22 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Spiff; Dominic Harr
You contradict yourself. First you say that it was the CwA Republicans that stayed home in 2006. Then you blame the social conservative Republicans for possibly staying home in 2008. Make up your mind.

Let's run them down again, let's see if the Republicans were men/women of their word, and see if they stuck to their promise or not....,

Judging from my count, they failed the test of the American people and the basic tenets contained int he CwA, and many here wonder why the American people got fed up and tossed them out.

1,024 posted on 02/02/2007 6:45:07 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Howlin
You think Jim will close it down?

Not for ideological reasons, but I predict that Rudy would be such a shameless liberal in the White House that contributions here would dry up as people lose interest in Republican politics.

1,025 posted on 02/02/2007 6:55:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Dominic Harr

JulieAnnie has a track record of running a city, a LIBERAL one at that. His accomplishments were only accomplishments because that worked for New Yorkers.

It's entirely different expecting the rest of the nation to mimic New York City.


1,026 posted on 02/02/2007 6:59:47 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: MadIvan
The reason being, things overall are pretty good, and the people who did take up arms in Montana or Waco got shot by the FBI. The right to bear a rifle or handgun in this context means very little - if you said that you wanted it for personal protection against criminals, that I would understand.

As I said earlier, our core philosophies on the RKBA are 180 different. Neither of us is going to convince the other. I would also recommend that you search FR's archives for Waco threads if you think the FBI was in the right there.

1,027 posted on 02/02/2007 7:01:40 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: MadIvan
Anyone sane does not want Clinton the Sequel. If it turns out that it's miscreants on the unreasonable wing of the Republican Party, people who ignore political realities to the point of self-destruction, who let Hillary into power, there's going to be blood on the floor, and the miscreants will be marginalised as a result.

If you don't want Hillary, we need to find a much less divisive candidate than Rudy. He is about the single most unpragmatic candidate you can come up with.

1,028 posted on 02/02/2007 7:03:23 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Judging from my count, they failed the test of the American people and the basic tenets contained int he CwA, and many here wonder why the American people got fed up and tossed them out.

Outstanding post.

I wonder if we can make this entire election about the CwA?

I think that would be a massive landslide.

1,029 posted on 02/02/2007 7:24:19 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: jmc813
"If you don't want Hillary, we need to find a much less divisive candidate than Rudy."

Exactly my sentiment. When a candidate campaigns, their plea is "Vote for me!"; when I go to the polls, I vote FOR those I determine fitted to the position.

If the GOP wants my vote, they'll offer someone to vote FOR them, not some lame-a$$ excuse to vote against their opposition especially when the two kool-aids are the same flavor. I believe, with a Democrat House and Senate, the GOP needs someone with more definition as a Conservative Republican than JulieAnnie, or else Republicans can expect to be railroaded.

With JulieAnnie's record, there ain't a whole lot of differentiation from the Democrat challengers to sway towards him. If that's the best the GOP can offer it deserves to lose.

1,030 posted on 02/02/2007 7:32:07 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Dominic Harr
I think that would be a massive landslide.

I think it would be too if they got back to the basics of the CwA and stuck to them. If all Republicans campaigned on and followed the 8 guidlines outlined in the CwA they'd win BIG.

1,031 posted on 02/02/2007 7:32:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: azhenfud
JulieAnnie has a track record of running a city, a LIBERAL one at that.

Running NYC, just the management of day-to-day activities, is an amazingly difficult job. He excelled at it, cleaned up that city, handled serious terrorist attacks, etc.

That's good on a resume, without a doubt.

Now does that prove he'd be the second coming of Ronald Reagan? Of course not. But it does establish a record of good decision making on day-to-day management problems. A record of 'tough on crime' going back to his days as a prosecutor.

Mayor of NYC would be a good stepping stone to the top job, I would think. More than Governor or Arkansas, at any rate!

1,032 posted on 02/02/2007 7:32:20 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
If all Republicans campaigned on and followed the 8 guidlines outlined in the CwA they'd win BIG.

You're really got something there. I wonder if there is any chance what-so-ever of that becoming reality?

1,033 posted on 02/02/2007 7:33:27 AM PST by Dominic Harr (Conservative: The "ant", to a liberal's "grasshopper".)
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To: Dominic Harr

I think it would be if they weren't so hellbent on erecting bridges to nowhere, legislating waste, passing a balanced budget, and giving corrupt politicians on both sides of the aisle a pass.


1,034 posted on 02/02/2007 7:39:09 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Dominic Harr
"From what I'm hearing of Rudy, he's got the potential to win those folks over. He's got a proven track record of managing a difficult govt structure. He's tough on crime, terror, defense. He's a stirring speaker."

How will pro-abortion win over anti-abortion ? The same for Guns and the Gay issues, I don't see how you win over the people that are exact opposite of your views?

In my experience from doing surveys and working the phones for the Republican party, the swing voters that vote Republican do so based on those issues more often than not in my local area.

If you lose them, you just plain lose. IMHO
1,035 posted on 02/02/2007 7:52:48 AM PST by Beagle8U (Thompson / Hunter 2008)
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To: jmc813

Pilots would not fly in such conditions. Why not allow them to carry bombs on board as well?


1,036 posted on 02/02/2007 9:11:09 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Alberta's Child

If it survived the Schiavo jihad it can survive ANYTHING.


1,037 posted on 02/02/2007 9:12:32 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: azhenfud

It was okay the US government betrayed Indians by violating every treaty written without expectation of consequence?? [Treaties are still in effect some tribes are profitting by them. Hyperbole is not history and has nothing to do with Lincoln's militia service during the Blackhawk War in protecting settlements.]

In any case the most egregious violation of human rights the US government ever undertook was driving the Cherokee and Choctaw out of the South East in order to satisfy the lust for gold of the white residents of the area. Andrew Jackson's Trial of Tears is perhaps the greatest blot on the good name of the American Republic. It was certainly worse than anything leading up to the Blackhawk War.

Another fact is that it was Republicans who believed in abiding by treaty obiligations and who appointed honest, human Indian agents to deal with the tribes. Those given power under Democrats did as they always have: cheated, lied and stole what was intended to help the victim.

Cherokee blood (a little anyway) flows through my veins and I resent what was done to them. Visitors to their encampments repeatedly express the view that the Cherokee were more civilized and decent than the whites which surrounded them.


1,038 posted on 02/02/2007 9:21:27 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Dead Corpse

All of which proves my point, not yours. Sorry. [Only in your own mind.]


1,039 posted on 02/02/2007 9:22:44 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: Spiff

Contrary to the position of some on this forum, Rudy Giuliani is NOT the only candidate in the Primary Election.
[Why do you say such things when NO ONE has said that or even implied it? Or even WANTS that to be the case.]


1,040 posted on 02/02/2007 9:24:53 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy.)
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