Posted on 01/29/2007 1:36:27 PM PST by Dark Skies
Many skeptics continue to question whether Rudy Giuliani is serious about making a run for the White House, but it was abundantly clear on Saturday that he had come to Manchester for more than the sub-freezing temperatures.
Addressing over 500 activists at the New Hampshire Republican Party's annual meeting as part of a two-day swing through the state, Giuliani sketched the broad outlines of what looks like a presidential run. Sounding at times like a motivational speaker, Giuliani cautioned against cynicism and pessimism in the wake of November's election results and challenges in the ongoing War on Terror. The message especially resonated with the audience in this critical primary state, where the Republican Party just lost control of both chambers of the legislature for the first time since the 1870s.
"The best way we remain safe and we retain our freedom...is remaining on offense, remaining strong and not becoming weak in a time of pressure," Giuliani said in a line that drew the biggest applause from the crowd at the Palace Theater.
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In the current FR poll question, Hunter is at 31.3% and Rudy is at 13.2%.
In an older FR poll question Rudy received 40.5% of FReeper support:
Free Republic Opinion Poll: AP: Giuliani Takes Steps to Prep for Presidential Bid in 2008! Would you be for or against Rudy Giuliani for president?
| Composite Opinion | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| against | 57.7% |   |
2,983 |
| for | 42.3% | |
2,185 |
| 100.0% | 5,168 | ||
| Member Opinion | |||
| against | 59.5% | |
1,386 |
| for | 40.5% | |
942 |
| 100.0% | 2,328 | ||
| Non-Member Opinion | |||
| against | 56.2% | |
1,597 |
| for | 43.8% | |
1,243 |
| 100.0% | 2,840 | ||
I've corrected you already. Please pay attention this time.
1.) Rudy is not an actual candidate yet.
2.) No candidate in the Primary Election is being "run" by the party. They have no control over who files to run in the Primary. Your same argument could be used to say that David Duke is an OK candidate to promoted because he ran in the Republican primary.
Why don't you ask Rudy yourself. Go to one of his town forums when he comes to your town. Find out how he stands - wait until he starts running and he has to be asked all those questions. I posted two posts on Rudy's positions. Maybe he will explain more when he decides to run. I am not Rudy - Why don't you get it from the horse's mouth.
Yea and A Freeper poll really means alot. Last poll Romney was leading.
Too many people lead off with a bash and then whine when they get it right back.
And too many people call it spamming when factual charts about Rudy's positions are posted on threads. They can't refute the content of the chart, so they complain about it being posted.
I would prefer they just sell Rudy as the East Coast liberal he is and let the chips fall where they may.
Hey, you're the one spending all your time supporting him here. All I did was post a Party Platform statement on immigration and asked if you thought that Rudy supported it. Just read it and give me a yes or a no.
I have not posted so much lately because I get tired of seeing President Bush get treated so disrespectfully. It's okay not to agree with him...but the attacks on him have been so vicious that I can't stand them.
Very interesting, indeed.
The polsl I was alluding to can't be judged.
Rudy's was a for or against ... Hunter's was strong support or support.
Today's is meaningless as it has been there too short a time.
Exactly! These folks don't have a clue on Hunter. You don't come from behind in today's environment and win. The political savvy on this thread is missing on how things work in the real world. When Hunter made those comments, he just told the world that he doesn't understand what a President can do.
In 2000, Bush and McCain started off in front -- I started supporting Bush in Jan 1999 and in the end it was the same two man race as all the others dropped out. On here supporters were saying why their man was going to win and it translated into almost no votes.
Candidates are picked early in today's enviroment because of the cost to run a 50-state campaign. Voters will flock to the candidate they believe can win because the average voter prefers to be on the winning side and dark horses will get their 1-2% in the primary and then start dropping out. Pres Bush proved you don't have to win in NH to win the nomination. Too many states today are also frontloaded on primaries. Oklahoma and a lot of other states come right after NH. Coming out of February 2008, we should know who is most likely going to win -- political reality.
Kerry virtually had the nomination sewed up after he won six of seven states I think it was with only Oklahoma putting him in #3 position. He only gained momentum after that.
I look at politics from a realistic point of view for the outcome. When it comes to President, I look for the Republican candidate that is going to whip the Democrats. That's my #1 priority followed by my #1 issues.
I know. Someone linked a very old thread to me the other day and I hadn't realized how many of those long-ago freepers have left the forum.
Do you remember 2000? Pres Bush got beat in everyone of these polls -- Freepers couldn't pick winners then either and it took the FL fiasco to get some of them on our side.
The Republican party disavowed Duke. Rudy got support for, ran and won as a Republican a number of times.
32% in the least favorable poll support him. 2% support your real Republican.
Yep, that's why Howard Dean was up 40-12 over Kerry in New Hampshire as of December 3rd, 2003 and went on to win the nomination handily.
And that's why McCain won the 2000 New Hampshire primary and went on to win the nomination.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Here is Rudy from a Q&A in the Twin Cities campaigning for Mark Kennedy
The first question from the crowd was regarding (no surprise) Illegal Immigration. Rudy essentially gave three steps that need to be enacted in any immigration reform legislation. The first step is to seal the borders. Secondly, there needs to be a mechanism for those who are here illegally to come forward so that we can identify who they are and screen them for criminals and potential terrorists. Thirdly, any immigration reform measure would have to included an English language requirement to foster assimilation into American Culture.
Kerry was getting creamed by Dean in the pre-primary polls. Why do you leave off the revelant facts? Is your position so weak that you cannot base it on facts?
Oh, so Nancy isn't quite in full control of all things to do with the Reagan legacy. So Reagan Man was wrong about that. Thanks.
The discussion is about allowing liberals to show their support for Rudy on FR. I posted two polls. The older one was Rudy`s maximum support level. If that poll was taken now, Rudy`s support would surely drop off. Just like it will with the conservative Republican public at large. The current poll is quite revealing and surpising to me. Duncan Hunter is kicking butt. So far. FReepers like Cong Hunter.
You didn't say that. You've said repeatedly that the Republican Party was "running" Giuliani in the primary.
FR Overloads, or FR Overlords?
It's useless to bother with them since they won't affect the outcome of any elections. They never have.
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