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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
Free Republic ^ | 22 September 2006 | Vanity

Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

Free Republic is currently running a poll on this subject:

Do you think creationism or intelligent design should be taught in science classes in secondary public schools as a competing scientific theory to evolution?
You can find the poll at the bottom of your "self search" page, also titled "My Comments," where you go to look for posts you've received.

I don't know what effect -- if any -- the poll will have on the future of this website's science threads. But it's certainly worth while to know the general attitude of the people who frequent this website.

Science isn't a democracy, and the value of scientific theories isn't something that's voted upon. The outcome of this poll won't have any scientific importance. But the poll is important because this is a political website. How we decide to educate our children is a very important issue. It's also important whether the political parties decide to take a position on this. (I don't think they should, but it may be happening anyway.)

If you have an opinion on this subject, go ahead and vote.


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To: freedumb2003

BTW, I understand TToE extensively. Used to believe in it decades ago.

Then I realized how shallow and bankrupt it was.


841 posted on 09/25/2006 8:43:44 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
Guess I touched a nerve.

Want's your opinion of the face on Mars?

842 posted on 09/25/2006 8:43:55 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Coyoteman

Folks have admitted faking crop circles, and demonstrated how they did them.

You don't believe them, but insist on some extraterrestrial or other extraordinary cause.
= = = = =

WRONG AGAIN!

Why would I bother with evidence about anything? Y'all have demonstrated persistent incapacities &/or unwillingness to believe simple statements of fact about myself and ABSOLUTELY REPEATEDLY INSIST

on bald faced lies, ASSUMPTIONS etc. about me!

Of course I believe the hoaxers. AND I BELIEVE THE RESEARCH THAT HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THE HOAXED CIRCLES ARE A MINORITY OF THE TOTAL.

But, hey, why let facts bother your very flawed construction on reality. Denial is much more comfortable.


843 posted on 09/25/2006 8:46:20 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
BTW, I understand TToE extensively.

Sure you do. Of course.

Now run along.

844 posted on 09/25/2006 8:50:18 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Liberal Classic
Want's your opinion of the face on Mars?

What's your opinion of this (while we're doing Rorschach tests)?


845 posted on 09/25/2006 8:51:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman

Don't waste your time. Once they START POSTING IN CAPS LIKE A TROLL there is NO POINT!

I am sure his mommy will be along any moment to shut the computer down and tuck him in with his binky.


846 posted on 09/25/2006 8:51:51 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Liberal Classic

touched a nerve?
= = = =

HO HO HO HO

Only in the sense that you've demonstrated a new level of ignorance and assumption . . . which is kind of . . . fascinating in it's new level of outrageousness.

I've studied the crop circle phenomena from the best researchers and met the best one. You evidently haven't.

I don't care that much what folks think about my convictions about the scientific evidence re crop circles. I'm a pretty good assessor of evidence and solid research.

I don't know what to make of Hoagland et al. He's entertaining, fascinating. But as in most of these areas, what's disinformation. What's 100% fabrication. What's truth. God only knows.

But, given the globalist puppet master and their massive expenditures in UFO technologies . . . I really wouldn't be all that surprised to learn some months to years hence that we've had bases on the moon and Mars for some time--unless the ET's have blocked them.


847 posted on 09/25/2006 8:52:10 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: freedumb2003

Now run along.
= = = =

Have you appointed yourself a new moderator?

LOL.


848 posted on 09/25/2006 8:53:17 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix
Why would I bother with evidence about anything?

Indeed.

849 posted on 09/25/2006 8:53:33 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: freedumb2003

I am sure his mommy will be along any moment to shut the computer down and tuck him in with his binky.
= = = =

Not likely.

Mother died of Alzheimer's about a year ago.

And, at almost 60 years old, I've been tucking myself in for quite some time.


850 posted on 09/25/2006 8:54:21 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

Of course.


851 posted on 09/25/2006 8:55:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Quix
I don't care that much what folks think about my convictions about the scientific evidence re crop circles. I'm a pretty good assessor of evidence and solid research.

Please don't take offense, but I tend to doubt your self-assessment.

But, given the globalist puppet master and their massive expenditures in UFO technologies . . . I really wouldn't be all that surprised to learn some months to years hence that we've had bases on the moon and Mars for some time--unless the ET's have blocked them.

Wow, ok.

852 posted on 09/25/2006 9:00:19 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Quix
Mother died of Alzheimer's about a year ago.

Sorry to hear that. I can truly sympathize.

And, at almost 60 years old, I've been tucking myself in for quite some time.

You are now one of the elders in your family. It is a huge responsibility (been there, doing that).

Perhaps it is time to begin examining reality, and to start accepting the world as it really is. You are now the example for the following generations. As I said, it is a huge responsibility.

853 posted on 09/25/2006 9:03:41 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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I'm responsible for an elder parent with Alzheimer's Disease. It's a difficult journey.
854 posted on 09/25/2006 9:07:33 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Coyoteman

Thanks for your kind, caring words.

Accepting the world as it is . . . is going to become startlingly difficult before too awfully long.

And the rate of change is going to accelerate astronomically.

Maintaining one's sanity in the midst of that will require a close relationship with God. Nothing else will be sufficient, imho.

Men's hearts failing them for fear will be the norm. Everyone will know someone who's died of fright from increasingly daily events.

Thanks for your kind and fitting exhortations.


855 posted on 09/25/2006 9:08:32 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Liberal Classic

You doubt all kinds of solid, reasonable things.

Never been that impressed by your doubts.


856 posted on 09/25/2006 9:09:22 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Liberal Classic

Thanks.

True.

Especially given that the Alzheimer's blunted or removed most of her more redeemable qualities and left her insufferable ones ragingly intact!

Thankfully, God's Grace proved sufficient. And, constantly reminding myself that she once wiped MY bottom.


857 posted on 09/25/2006 9:10:59 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

I tend to doubt crop circles and livestock mutilation as being caused by extraterrestials, yes.


858 posted on 09/25/2006 9:11:46 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Quix

It steals our loved ones a piece at a time, until we're left with an empty shell of a person. I can certainly empathize about your mother. Bless her heart, and yours. It's not an easy thing.


859 posted on 09/25/2006 9:14:34 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic

Initially, the cattle mutilations evidenced a technology to evidently literally cut between the cell walls--probably with a laser like device.

In recent decades, the picture has evidently become more muddled with tales of government types doing such with their own UFO craft and staging them to implicate the ET's.

But, clearly ET's have been at it, probably much longer and much more extensively than we have.

And, some people do not think that even now that we have the technology to drain absolutely every drop of blood and to do the other technically challenging aspects of such.

But the animal mutilations are not the most disturbing aspect--it's the vastly underreported human mutilations of exactly the same sort--all with the humans clearly awake, alive, as long as possible, while undergoing the horrific procedures.

The nonsense that wolves and such are doing such is just ignorant. Predators and other animals will leave the carcasses a wide berth for months. And, they tend to attract no flies and to fail to deteriorate for very extended times.

Again, Linda Moulton Howe is a great expert on the subject.

The NM Congressman who drove a GAO study into the thing eventually muffled and sort of aborted the explanations he might have given. The consensus was that he'd been ordered in no uncertain terms to do so. Then, he died not that long afterwards of cancer, as I recall.

BTW, just as a thought experiment . . . how would

YOU

explain

the following evidence:

1. cow heard bellowing as she's observed rising in a cone of light into a large silent craft hovering overhead

2. There's no tracks into the new fallen snow except the cow's tracks.

3. The cow is later dropped roughly from where she was lifted though from a few to several hundred feet.

4. No predators will get anywhere near the carcass.

5. The local law enforcement admit to receiving lots of reports of such but refuse to comment further or to have anything to do with the case.


860 posted on 09/25/2006 9:19:47 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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