Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
Free Republic is currently running a poll on this subject:
Do you think creationism or intelligent design should be taught in science classes in secondary public schools as a competing scientific theory to evolution?You can find the poll at the bottom of your "self search" page, also titled "My Comments," where you go to look for posts you've received.
I don't know what effect -- if any -- the poll will have on the future of this website's science threads. But it's certainly worth while to know the general attitude of the people who frequent this website.
Science isn't a democracy, and the value of scientific theories isn't something that's voted upon. The outcome of this poll won't have any scientific importance. But the poll is important because this is a political website. How we decide to educate our children is a very important issue. It's also important whether the political parties decide to take a position on this. (I don't think they should, but it may be happening anyway.)
If you have an opinion on this subject, go ahead and vote.
It is not an unrelated subject. You believe we evolved from something so tell me where it began.
Is that the best you could come up with? A personal attack? I am afraid you are the one who is truly ignorant. I said evolution has not been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. If you have all the facts proving otherwise please share.
It is all I have to come up with.
If you had any type of scientific literacy, you would have stated your question in a scientific context, but since the theory goes against your beliefs, you phrase your questions as beliefs.
You do not believe in the theory of evolution, either you understand it, or you don't, there is no belief.
"All the facts" can't be presented in one thread, or one month of threads. And even if they could be, that wouldn't "prove" anything, except that evolution is powerfully supported by all the available evidence. If you're curious about the subject, you might poke around here. It's a good place to start: The List-O-Links.
Why the first organism that evolved of course. It all had to start somewhere didn't it.
Why do you pester us with nonsense? If you have something substantive, fine, let's hear it.
If not, go back to your room. Us adults have real things to discuss.
Chinese as a people are amongst the least gullible groups I've ever been around. They have to be to navigate all the nuance stuff in all their complicated surface and subsurface relationship dynamics and customs.
I drew a conclusion based on the continuous prattle you disgorge here. I figured if they're buying what you're selling then they must be gullible. But Naive would have perhaps been a better verb.
But I realize facts are not of great interest to the EVO side of things.
Your ability to build strawmen and conflate things does not constitute "fact."
I am not a scientific person but that does not mean I am ignorant or incapable of understanding facts.
You do not believe in the theory of evolution, either you understand it, or you don't, there is no belief.
OK, you understand it but you don't believe it either. We agree on one thing.
I understand the theory of evolution, it happened, and is happening, there is far too much scientific evidence for it to be otherwise.
If you can scientifically show that evolution did not occur, please feel free to do so, I would enjoy seeing it.
ID does not go against my beliefs, as a matter of fact, ID fits in with my religious belief structure quite well, but ID is not scientific, and therefore should not be taught in a science class.
Richard A. Passwater, Ph.D. ?????????????
An unfortunate name.
ID (at least as usually presented, since it has more meanings than "Re-engineering" did in the 80's) has a potential theological problem also: it posits a Designer who has to keep interfering and tinkering with its creations. More like the Q than an awesome God who stands outside the Universe and created all things great and small.
Just a a thought.
Damn, one said to have a mail order PhD coulda had any name he wanted.
A few points in a nice post.
One. No one is offended by suggesting that evolution hasn't been "proved". Scientific theories aren't proved. They can, however, be disproved. They either explain the observable evidence, or they don't. But they do not "prove beyond a reasonable doubt" like a laywer might do in a television courtroom drama.
Two. The modern theory of evolution, comprised of Darwin's theory of natural selection, Mendel' theory of inheritance, and discoveries in molecular biology that have come about since the description of the DNA molecule by Watson, Crick, and Wilkins, the theory of evolution is on solid footing. It is not, as some people would like to believe, on its way out.
Three. The "intelligent design" conjecture isn't up to the standards of science. What passes for intelligent design is really creationism dressed up in pseudo-scientific sounding jargon.
Fourth and last. Science isn't about belief. Scientific knowledge does not require faith, only the effort and dedication to learn something about the physical world around us. I don't believe in evolution, though there are many who accuse us of being idolators. I know what the theory says, and I understand some about practical applications of the theory (e.g. genetic programming, micropaleontology in oil exploration). But I don't believe in it. You don't have to believe in science and technology in order for it to work.
Duh! you really are freedumb
Szent-Györgyi clearly stated that when pure ascorbic acid was administered, it could not cure scurvy. It had to be the fruit to cure the disease.
As is customary, an honored associate wrote the foreward.
Ad homina are generally considered to be pretty low form.
We expect it from CR/Iders. I don't know you so I have no idea what your problem (besides being unable to assemble an argument) is.
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