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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
Free Republic ^ | 22 September 2006 | Vanity

Posted on 09/22/2006 2:09:33 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Jaguarbhzrd

Well, thank you for your kind words. I don't believe I'm "out there" on evolution, just wanted someone to explain why there are no additional transitionals in the fossil record. That was my only question throughout the thread. I accept the tennets of evolution for as far as the theory explains certain things. But, as a thinking person I have questions about other facets of the theory.

I will tell my son of your thanks when he next calls from Baghdad. I also have a nephew who has already served one tour in Iraq, and another who is there now. And now, my other son is planning on enlisting in the Army. Too much to deal with at times, but we keep on anyway. God Bless and good night.


561 posted on 09/24/2006 10:32:44 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Jaguarbhzrd; taxesareforever
To teach ID as some sort of scientific competition to evolution, is indoctrination, whether you care to admit it or not.

And if state law mandates the teaching of science, it is a high crime, exposing the perps to impeachment by the state legislature. It is also fraud, whcih opens up the school board and its individual members to lawsuits by the ripped-off teachers, parents, and students.

You're going to have to learn to live with the fact that approx. 299 of every 300 biologists say that evolution is an important, well-tested part of biology. School boards and legislatures have neither the authority nor the competence to decide what science is.

562 posted on 09/24/2006 10:32:55 PM PDT by Virginia-American (What do you call an honest creationist? An evolutionist.)
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To: taxesareforever
In science, a theory is a major idea that is supported by numerous observations and/or experiments and that explains a broad range of phenomena. In everyday language, the word theory is used as a synonym for a hypothesis, a guess, a hope, a bias, or even a wild idea

I must say that evolution falls under everyday language.

Sorry, I can't agree with that. The theory of evolution has been supported by new data and tests for 150 years, and is stronger than ever.

563 posted on 09/24/2006 10:33:07 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
In science, a theory is a major idea that is supported by numerous observations and/or experiments and that explains a broad range of phenomena.

So, what was observed? And I won't take "dead stuff" as an answer.

564 posted on 09/24/2006 10:36:39 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: taxesareforever
Wow, you have a memory like a steel trap. Last guy I knew who had one like that snapped.

Nah, I just note things I want to remember in a Word file.

565 posted on 09/24/2006 10:36:55 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Liberal Classic

"Well, count your blessings. At least no one's called you a idolator or member of Al Qaeda"


People who resort to that level of subterfuge are trying to mask other shortcoming of their own.


566 posted on 09/24/2006 10:38:06 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Coyoteman
Nah, I just note things I want to remember in a Word file.

I feel honored that I have make your select list.

567 posted on 09/24/2006 10:39:12 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: CarryaBigStick
Extremism on both sides of this argument is counter-productive.

Sadly, there is no "middle ground." You either understand science or you don't.

Even more sadly, those moonbats who don't understand put thenselves out as representative of Conservatives.

And embarrass us all.

568 posted on 09/24/2006 10:39:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: SoldierDad

You're probably right. Tell you're son there's a hell of a lot of people around here rootin' for them. Like a lot of people around here, I know plenty of folks who have been there or are there now. (Some military and a some civi contractors.) They have the support of even a stiff-necked evil-utionist like me.

I'll have to disagree with you about fossils. Fossil evidence gives us a good picture of how life has changed over millions of years. Genetic analysis tends to agree with our interpretation of fossil evidence. Do we have every single fossil of every kind of animal or plant? Of course not. But we have a great many, and it is possible for us to piece together large portions of the jigsaw puzzle.


569 posted on 09/24/2006 10:47:18 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: freedumb2003
And embarrass us all.

No, just those of us that understand science.

They really are clueless as to how they look to others that might look at the Republican party as an actual home for their ideas and votes.

When they see the extremists claiming that you cannot be a conservative unless you are a creationist, you see the tent getting smaller and smaller.

Then again, the Dem's are getting just as extreme, so maybe a third party is not out of the realm of possibilities.

Because if the Republican party is actually going to only accept creationists as conseratives, the Republican party is going to be in a world of hurt, very shortly.

570 posted on 09/24/2006 10:51:12 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Virginia-American
School boards and legislatures have neither the authority nor the competence to decide what science is.

They have the authority, the problem is that they don't have the competence.

571 posted on 09/24/2006 10:54:02 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: SoldierDad; Liberal Classic
Tell you're son there's a hell of a lot of people around here rootin' for them.

Agreed! In spades!

572 posted on 09/24/2006 10:55:02 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
You are too busy mocking your Creator.

No one was mocking any Creator. If you believe that there is a good reason for a Creator giving all primates, including humans, a defective ascorbic acid gene, then you should explain the reasoning rather than making presumptious personal attacks against others.
573 posted on 09/24/2006 10:58:29 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Liberal Classic

Thank you for your kind words regarding my son. His job places him directly in harms way (combat operations). Whenever he is not able to communicate for long stretches we become extremely anxious. We've also know quite a few young men and women who've served over there or Afghanistan, or both. There are about 14 students my two sons wrestled with in Junior High and High School who've been there.

Just so you know, I don't completely disagree with the "evidence" of evolution (not evilution). I'm just looking for explanation for why further evidence has not yet been located. I may have given impressions about me which aren't really true, but then sometimes debate requires playing devils advocate :o) For anything I said which might have been taken in offence I appologize. Healthy debate is what this should be all about.


574 posted on 09/24/2006 10:59:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Dimensio

For those of you that don't know what he is talking about, Absorbic acid is vitamin C.

The stuff you get from fruit, and since our ancestors ate a whole lot of fruit, creating it ourselves didn't matter, so the gene that allowed us to create vitamin C on our own, was shut off, and didn't make a bit of difference.


575 posted on 09/24/2006 11:00:36 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: taxesareforever
Would be a whole lot better than teaching the lie of evolution.

You have yet to demonstrate that evolution is a "lie".
576 posted on 09/24/2006 11:01:33 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: SoldierDad

I will pray for your son's safety, just as I am sure you do.

He is doing an important job, that must be done.

And I am going to stop for the evening, but just to let you know, your son is in my thoughts and prayers, just as a few friends of mine are as well.

Have a wonderful evening, and sleep well.


577 posted on 09/24/2006 11:05:01 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Jaguarbhzrd

Thank you Jaguarbhzrd. Prayers really help during these times. And the more people who provide prayers the better. I hope your evening is peaceful; sleep well yourself.


578 posted on 09/24/2006 11:07:43 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: Coyoteman

Thank you, and have a peaceful night. God Bless.


579 posted on 09/24/2006 11:09:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: SoldierDad

I'm Gulf War era. Our sister regiment was there and my unit had been mobilized but we had not deployed by the time the 100 hours was reached. Yesterday I was wondering how much farther along Iraq would be now if we hadn't had stopped the invasion then.


580 posted on 09/24/2006 11:09:58 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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