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Lucy: Clearcut Case of Evolutionist Fraud
Answers in Genesis ^ | 2003 | Dr. David Menton, Brown Univ.

Posted on 06/18/2006 7:59:34 AM PDT by tomzz

This little video was shown at the apologetics group at the McLean Bible Church last week and the effect on viewers was rather striking.

Lucy is the 40% more-or-less complete australopithicus skeleton which is commonly presented as a missing link of sorts, and the thought processes behind the manner in which reconstructions of lucy are presented indicates a mindset in which, at every juncture at which reality clashes with ideology, it is reality which simply gets tossed.

Lucy's actual remains did not included hands or feet and reconstructions are commonly presented with human or near-human hands and feet despite the fact that other skeletons of the same creature have hands and feet which are clearly those of an ape, with curved fingers for moving about in trees. Mary Leakey in fact had found clear tracks of human footprints in the same strata and location as Lucy's remains and the assumption is that at least one australopithicus MUST have had human feet.

Asked whether a better explanation would be that the tracks were simply produced by humans, Leakey and others replied that was impossible since the tracks were millions of years old.

The obvious explanation of course is that a human made the footprints and "Lucy" was simply that human's pet monkey.

The story actually gets better (much better) from there if you can believe that, with evolutionists claiming that a deer or other animal trampled "Lucy"'s hips and pelvis, breaking them into pieces, and that the pieces congealed by chances into the conformation of those of an ape, and deriving the true picture of Lucy's hips and pelvis by making a plaster cast, breaking it up with a saw, and then rearranging the pieces into a more human conformation.

For anybody willing to part with the twelve dollars, this little documentary offers an astonishing glimpse into the mindset of the evolution true believer.

David Menton earned a Ph.D. in cell biology from Brown University. He served as a biomedical research technician at Mayo Clinic and then as an associate professor of anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine (St Louis). For almost two decades he has been profiled in American Men and Women of Science—A Biographical Directory of Today’s Leaders in Physical, Biological and Related Sciences. Dr. Menton has lectured throughout the United States and Canada on the creation-evolution controversy.



TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: australopithicus; bloodbath; creationism; crevo; crevolist; documentary; evolution; fraud; intelligentdesign; lucy; moviereview; validpoints
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To: tomzz

"By contrast, even the nazis and communists knew better than to buy into their own idiotic propaganda on a wholesale basis."

Tom, you are the author of "Tyrannosaur Meat". Goob


161 posted on 06/27/2006 7:11:27 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: celmak

"Fact: I proved that more educated people know Creation to be true."

Celmak, its time for your medicine now. Good Night Honey. Sweet Dreams.


162 posted on 06/27/2006 7:51:18 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: 2nsdammit

"If not for the fact that you give liberals fodder for their "idiotic inbred conservatives" meme, it would be humorous."

Exactly. And idiots like this stick in the minds of swing voters and cause close elections to go bad. We need a dark closet to stuff him into till after election day.



163 posted on 06/27/2006 7:53:35 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: OmahaFields

You didn't know how religious those dems are, huh? :o)


164 posted on 06/27/2006 8:58:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: tomzz
I'm not 'attacking one data point'; I'm claiming that in this particular case, evolutionists have been caught in an outright act of fraud and it is both clear and instructive that in their own minds they have done nothing wrong. They are so totally bought into a basic paradigm that they view any piece of evidence which contradicts that paradigm to be damaged and in need of some sort of repair or restoration.

You mis-state both the situation at hand and the use that mis-statement to paint with a broad brush.

"Fraud" (which I do not concede) in a single case is attacking a single data point.

By contrast, even the nazis and communists knew better than to buy into their own idiotic propaganda on a wholesale basis.

Goodwin's Law.

165 posted on 06/27/2006 9:44:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: OmahaFields; editor-surveyor
crossbread

Is that recipe like hot cross buns?

I think this is the best that CRIDer "thinking" can do:


166 posted on 06/27/2006 9:48:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: freedumb2003

"CRIDer"

I will have to remember that one. Haven't seen it used before but I like it.


167 posted on 06/27/2006 10:44:41 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: freedumb2003

Godwins law doesn't apply on these threads. It understates the probabilities.


168 posted on 06/27/2006 10:51:39 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: editor-surveyor
You didn't know how religious those dems are, huh? :o)

The biggest disappointment I have found on these threads is these type of posts always go right over their heads. OTOH, that disappointment is overridden by finding other enlightened souls like you. Their loss is our gain.

169 posted on 06/27/2006 10:57:22 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: freedumb2003

You too. Since e had responded to my post, I had presumed that he had posted the picture with verifying. Thank you!


170 posted on 06/27/2006 10:59:54 PM PDT by OmahaFields
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To: freedumb2003

Ok, I'm really good with the profound, but what the heck is "Hot Cross Buns". I was laughing, and then I realized, "What does that mean?"
LOL


171 posted on 06/28/2006 9:30:44 AM PDT by SaveUS
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To: SaveUS

I think they were biscuits or the like popular in old England.


172 posted on 06/28/2006 9:34:34 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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To: OmahaFields

When you reach the point where you can no longer laugh (especially at yourself) you had better give up ;o)


173 posted on 06/28/2006 12:35:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: celmak; SaveUS

I'm back, after a little vacation...

If you look at the poll I posted, and if you were capable of understanding what it says (which you are apparently not), you would see that the numbers of YEC creationist believers decline with increasing education. Also, increasing income correlates with decreasing belief in YEC.

The conclusion one should reach, if one were capable of understanding logic, is that un-educated, minimum wage folks are more apt to believe in creation than in those with education and higher paying jobs.

Of course, the point that others made about the whole thing not being a popularity contest is a very good one.


174 posted on 07/05/2006 9:55:05 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit; celmak

""and replaced them, so that we have a very tough, resistant, very lipid-rich material"

Sounds like she's saying it's basically fat.


175 posted on 07/05/2006 10:21:38 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

"Sounds like she's saying it's basically fat."

Hmm, I guess she was a Big Boned Girl.


176 posted on 07/05/2006 10:31:25 AM PDT by SaveUS
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To: SaveUS

"Hmm, I guess she was a Big Boned Girl."

LOL

That's the best one I've heard all day.


177 posted on 07/05/2006 10:42:21 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: 2nsdammit

Please don't confuse me with Celmak. I'm begging.


178 posted on 07/05/2006 11:02:00 AM PDT by SaveUS
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To: SaveUS

I didn't. Just thought you might be interested in my reply (after all these days). Sorry to have given you that impression - trust me, I would NEVER, EVER confuse you two!


179 posted on 07/05/2006 12:43:19 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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To: 2nsdammit

Whew! (Wiping sweat.) Thanks for the include.


180 posted on 07/05/2006 12:45:48 PM PDT by SaveUS
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