Posted on 06/18/2006 7:59:34 AM PDT by tomzz
This little video was shown at the apologetics group at the McLean Bible Church last week and the effect on viewers was rather striking.
Lucy is the 40% more-or-less complete australopithicus skeleton which is commonly presented as a missing link of sorts, and the thought processes behind the manner in which reconstructions of lucy are presented indicates a mindset in which, at every juncture at which reality clashes with ideology, it is reality which simply gets tossed.
Lucy's actual remains did not included hands or feet and reconstructions are commonly presented with human or near-human hands and feet despite the fact that other skeletons of the same creature have hands and feet which are clearly those of an ape, with curved fingers for moving about in trees. Mary Leakey in fact had found clear tracks of human footprints in the same strata and location as Lucy's remains and the assumption is that at least one australopithicus MUST have had human feet.
Asked whether a better explanation would be that the tracks were simply produced by humans, Leakey and others replied that was impossible since the tracks were millions of years old.
The obvious explanation of course is that a human made the footprints and "Lucy" was simply that human's pet monkey.
The story actually gets better (much better) from there if you can believe that, with evolutionists claiming that a deer or other animal trampled "Lucy"'s hips and pelvis, breaking them into pieces, and that the pieces congealed by chances into the conformation of those of an ape, and deriving the true picture of Lucy's hips and pelvis by making a plaster cast, breaking it up with a saw, and then rearranging the pieces into a more human conformation.
For anybody willing to part with the twelve dollars, this little documentary offers an astonishing glimpse into the mindset of the evolution true believer.
David Menton earned a Ph.D. in cell biology from Brown University. He served as a biomedical research technician at Mayo Clinic and then as an associate professor of anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine (St Louis). For almost two decades he has been profiled in American Men and Women of Science—A Biographical Directory of Today’s Leaders in Physical, Biological and Related Sciences. Dr. Menton has lectured throughout the United States and Canada on the creation-evolution controversy.
For every person posting on these threads there are a dozen who "lurk." Believe it or don't, but it's true.
So let's say you don't dishonestly twist my words, and let's answer the question....
You apparently think I'm wrong that most educated people think creationists are goobers?
"I think I have driven you to delusion, my apologies. "
Ah, there you go, projecting.... It seems to be a classic symptom of Literal-Genesisitis. If not for the fact that you give liberals fodder for their "idiotic inbred conservatives" meme, it would be humorous.
"Literal-Genesisitis"
Ouch. LG with inflammation. That has got to hurt. Maybe Ibuprofen would help? As long as the Creo's can swallow their pride long enough to take a med produced by some Godless evolutionist.
"most educated people think creationists are goobers?"
LOL Isn't "Goober" such a useful word? Kind of paints a picture all by itself.
Lester Maddox once said while speaking of Jimmy Carter, (paraphrase) "I've been a peanut farmer all my life, and I know a bad Goober when I see one."
From http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/dn8254.html
"IT IS surpassingly strange that half of Americans recently polled (2004) not only do not believe in evolution by natural selection but do not believe in evolution at all. Americans are certainly capable of belief, and with rock-like conviction if it originates in religious dogma. In evidence is the 60 per cent that accept the prophecies of the Bible's Book of Revelation as truth..."
Yep, your WRONG.
From a CBS poll:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml
"Majority Reject Evolution"
Most Americans do not accept the theory of evolution. Instead, 51 percent of Americans say God created humans in their present form, and another three in 10 say that while humans evolved, God guided the process. Just 15 percent say humans evolved, and that God was not involved.
SaveUS, 2nsdammit, Junior; you lost big time on this one, your the "GOOBERS!" LOL !!!
Science isn't a popularity contest. It is sad that you think it is.
51 percent of Americans say God created humans in their present form,"
Strangly enough, 51 percent is really close to the percentage of people who vote Democrat. I would bet 51% or better is the number of people who think we shouldn't pay taxes. And since the average IQ of the populus resides around 80, I am not so sure this is something that is votable. And I stand by the statement that MOST educated people think that Creo's are Goober's. Because at the end of the day, physical evidence trumps faith. Sad but true.
Hmmm. From the same Web site:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9392-ancient-beads-imply-culture-older-than-we-thought.html
"The finding is more evidence that modern human behaviour developed gradually in Africa following the appearance of anatomically modern humans around 200,000 years ago.
Modern Human behavior developed gradually in Africa. 200,000 YEARS AGO!!! I thought God ZAPPED all of it 6000 years ago? After all, it was your website reference. Thanks for the confirming link!
Your right, it's just that most educated people know that Evolution has myths, and Creation is a fact.
Last time, it was 48% (2004 election, where your guy lost).
"And since the average IQ of the populus [sic] resides around 80, I am not so sure this is something that is votable [sic]."
Funny, that’s just what Libs say about Conservatives; but we Conservatives know that the populous is smarter than that.
Once again, from what I quoted:
Just 15 percent say humans evolved, and that God was not involved. 15 percent of the population are “GOOBERS!”
"Because at the end of the day, physical evidence trumps faith."
E.g., the physical evidence of the Bible trumps Evolutionary faith. Happy and true.
P.S.: Use spell check,"lurkers" get distracted with "GOOBER" mistakes.
More confirmation that you are a "GOOBER;" the whole story is written by elitist who wonder why their fairy tale is not believed, and 200,000 years of human development is a whopper!
Truthfully, you comfort yourself with lies; reality eludes you.
"the whole story is written by elitist who wonder why their fairy tale is not believed,"
Yeah, but they print the truth for free, you have to pay 4.95 to listen to the B.S. part. I wasn't that gullible.
"P.S.: Use spell check,"lurkers" get distracted with "GOOBER" mistakes."
LOL I didn't realize you were losing the debate that badly. You can bet anytime you are losing the debate, either Hitler or missspailed words will be the point of contention. You can now revert to scripture...
Another poll for you:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm
Total creationists: 47%
Notice the breakout among educated vs. uneducated.
Total college grads who are creationists: 25%
Overall findings are that those who are educated and higher paid tend far less to believe in creationism. Also, the phenomenon seems to be based in uneducated, low paid Americans, sadly...
I can perhaps attribute this to the "sorry state of public schools" in America I keep hearing about?
"Last time, it was 48% (2004 election, where your guy lost)."
There you go again. Why is it that you have an apparently pathological need to believe that anyone who is educated and believes science must be a liberal? Do you truly believe that, or are you just a DU troll, here to add credence to the "conservatives are idiots" meme?
FYI, I am most assuredly NOT a liberal. Of course, you'll continue to assign that, your most stinging epithet, to me, I'm sure.
Yep, all of the percentages sound great until you get a few from a non-religious web site. Not to mention if you just take percentages, and don't apply intelligence to them as Celmak has obviously neglected to do, you get something like this:
Percentage of Muslims (1996) 26%
Islam annual growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 6.40%
Christianity growth rate (1994-1995) from U.N. 1.46%
Muslims are growing rapidly. They must be right.
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