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Terri's Day and nation's independence protects life culture
Renew America ^ | May 29, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:37 AM PDT by KevinNuPac

Terri's Day and nation's independence protects life culture

Kevin Fobbs May 29, 2006

America's Culture of Life is truly the legacy of one woman whose death forever changed our nation because of actions that were not in her hands but in those of her husband and his lawyers. Yet for millions of Americans we will forever link our own celebration of our nation's independence to the courage of the Schindler family to go forward past the tragedy, past the personal sorrow, past the searing anguish to help America draw a distinct line in the sand, to issue a clarion call to America.

Our 4th of July is coming... Our Culture of Life Independence Day is on its way. Our month of Independence is a message that March 31st (Terri's Day) will signal, that July 4th will signal... and that the month of July will signal to defend the Culture of Life before we lose it forever.

When we talked with our family members or even our neighbors or our friends we may have spent but a moment reflecting upon why we are even gathered on a Memorial Day afternoon. Do we think about the sacrifice of our soldiers and of their families? Do we think about the long goodbyes which are never long enough... as the military families send their loved ones to war, to battle, to stand firm for our freedoms... for our life... for our nation and its values of faith?

How does Terri Schiavo and her legacy tie into this? Terri's legacy and Terri's Day is a representation of a right to live, and freedom to have the liberty to not have it compromised away, devalued by inconvenience, or litigated away by judges who celebrate a culture of death that would rob life from the womb, steal life from a hospital or hospice bed, and destroy and shatter a family's love for a daughter, a sister and aunt who was given a gift from God, but had it separated from her as easily as an ant would have its life take by an uncaring shoe... extinguished forever.

The families who send their loved ones off to war have to wonder as well, does America value their sacrifice? The families of the military have to wonder just where does its society draw the line on its values? A soldier who is in battle in Iraq or Afghanistan has to wonder if a Florida judge can take away the life of an innocent, what is the measure of his life? Would a judge in America suddenly decide that if he were injured, if he had to sacrifice a limb that the protesters outside his hospital bed would have more rights than he would or his family? Would this soldier have to wonder that if he or his fellow soldier were killed in battle, that upon their return that the protesters who would stand outside of his funeral... have more rights to be protected than the rights his family would have to a military burial with honor?

You see, the Culture of Life is about Terri Schiavo, because Americans now have to examine the life of our culture itself. We have to wonder if we as a nation of Christians and of a nation of faith and of a nation of compassion would allow for a state to murder an innocent woman and strip her family of their loved one then as a nation would we allow America to have other symbols of life, of our nation to be peeled away as well, all in open sight and in plain view of a dispassionate nation?

What does our American Culture mean if we allow millions of illegal aliens to literally browbeat us into submission by demanding that because they have stolen across our borders, demanded and received protection from local law enforcement in numerous cities throughout the U. S., obtained free or reduced educational opportunities by state public colleges that our own children could not qualify to receive the same financial aid assistance for. Are we that defenseless to let illegals strip our state coffers of housing assistance for loans and mortgages when tens of thousands in almost every state in America have legal citizens who are homeless, impoverished, or working poor or middle class Americans who need similar assistance but cannot receive it. And they are legal! They are citizens! They are Americans.

What is so wrong about our nation when we are so ready to compromise our freedoms, our culture's life, the life of an innocent and the taking of any life is the taking of our own children's life and their child's. And with each successive generation the nation and its life, its values, its traditions, and its language will disappear because we as Americans were too preoccupied — too narrow — to see that an illegal alien was taking your child's education, that a crusading death culture judge was preparing a bed, a room, a legal precedent to take your child, grandchild or sister or parent.

That is why I have stayed my course to defend the Culture of Life and to ask my fellow Americans to begin to understand that as Terri Schiavo's life was slowly ebbing from her body and as her mother Mary, father Bob, sister Suzanne, and brother Bobby waited in the Florida early morning air on March 31st, 2005, America was having part of its soul ebb away as well.

What will it take to spark an interest, a concern, and a passion for protecting one's own life? Some may say that it would take a clear and present danger — like tanks rolling down your neighborhood street or another 9/11 that strikes at the heart of America. Do we have the convenience to wait? Do we wait until a state legislature in Maine or California or Delaware or Ohio or Illinois decides that your mother's decision to live is determined by a hospital "bean counter" who decides that your mother's life is not based upon a "Will To Live" but an ability to pay her bill? What about a baby, not born, but already set for murder in the womb — not because the mother is pro-life or pro-death but because "the law" says the unborn baby's life is expendable because the baby's genes are determined to be part of a class or a group or a race or of an ethnicity which pre-programs the child, un-born, to death?

America is being murdered in small pieces. It is seeing its values, its life, its culture disemboweled with the finesse of a skilled surgeon. And it is America's poll takers and its legislators and its uncaring, disinterested, and uninvolved who are handling the scalpel. Take the scalpel away. Contact www.Terrisfight.org to join the Foundation's battle to educate America about the right to live. Go to Terri's Day on www.kevinfobbs.com to learn about new updates on Terri's Day and the event to celebrate the Culture of life.

So on Independence Day and Independence month of July will we have any Americans who will sign up and join the Culture of Life movement in their community? Even if it is to sign a pledge, hand out a flyer, become aware of legislators and judicial candidates who have agreed to stand firm for the Culture of Life — a crusade that is based not only upon the life of Terri Schiavo's legacy but equally crucial based also upon the legacy of the right to live, to defend our culture and the life of its values.

Terri's Day is not the end of a national movement but the beginning of a national contract with itself to stand for a future that our nation can guarantee for its children and for a culture that will insure life. The right to live will be Terri's legacy — our legacy... one nation under God. Join us in your homes, on your family picnics, out camping and celebrating July 14th and 15th ... Our American Culture of Life belongs to each and every one of us... We must protect it. Let's celebrate together.

Kevin Fobbs is President of National Urban Policy Action Council (NuPac), a non-partisan civic and citizen-action organization that focuses on taking the politics out of policy to secure urban America's future one neighborhood, one city, and one person at a time. View NuPac on the web at www.nupac.info. Kevin Fobbs is a regular contributing columnist for the Detroit News. He is also the host of The Kevin Fobbs Show: go to: ,www.kevinfobbs.com. To contact him go to: kevin@kevinfobbs.com.

© Copyright 2006 by Kevin Fobbs http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/fobbs/060529


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To: TacticalFlashlight
I take your comments in proper vein and extend a welcome. It looks obvious however, you came not of your own volition but as someone brought in to help out a friend. Am I right?

If so, well, that is fine, but you have lots of catching up to do to gain credibility. What we are about here is a heavy background in carrying on pro-life battles. We counter those who are against pro-life or try to disrupt.

We are against state sponsored murder and the forces of evil who seek to control our lives from embryo to when they decide we are to die. This is what we faced at Pinellas Park when a husband and his allies in a culture of death fought and succeeded in killing an innocent by a means so cruel that if done to an animal the world would be outraged. If you read the history through our threads past you would find a huge volume of facts and evidence to balance the raw propaganda put out by the left and their allies in the media, those who hearken to the dark side.

As you will soon see, this is not all about Terri but the legacy she left behind. In that Legacy we find others, as I posted today, under the shadow of euthanasia at the hands of our own government. We work to save such victims and have succeeded at times. If you are not aware that these things are happening here and elsewhere as they did in Hitler's Germany, it is time to become informed.

Seek the truth and you will find it in our threads. Otherwise, swallow the popular notions from the newspapers and TV and you can get it at the Kool Aid stand on the corner.

Our own allies who fought with us to prevent such injustices represent most all faiths, Catholics, Presbyterians, other born-agains and fundamentalists, Jews, people of good will. On scene, we saw the epic battle of good versus evil unfold in parallel with the Easter season. We all chose our sides most all on the side of good and the rest chose their own masters. Those who chose the other side are those who love death, those who are anti-life, those who chose the material world of man.

So when an interloper comes online, hitting the ground with angry assaults and intent to disrupt and to pelt us with verses from no matter where, we stand our ground. Our symbol is the White Rose. You should learn about its origin.

We find it unreasonable to tolerate such behavior, more so when it is in the name of Christianity.

We are pro life. FreeRepublic is pro life. We hope you are too.

It is good to support a friend, but when the friend is plain off base, it is a bad start for you to begin your stay on such threads. Taste your words before you speak and be aware of the company you have joined. Robert Burns made the point: O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae monie a blunder free us, An' foolish notion:

1,681 posted on 07/29/2006 3:00:14 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter
Why, yes, I just joined today; I believe I alluded to that upthread. You are mistaken in saying I am "trying to argue" anything. What I am -trying- to do is decipher the cryptic and tangential posts you keep addressing to me. You seem to be -trying- to make a point, but what it might be is quite unclear.

I would welcome a discussion with you and the other posters, if you can be a little clearer and stay on point.
1,682 posted on 07/29/2006 3:01:59 PM PDT by TacticalFlashlight
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To: All
Reminder of the White Rose...

"We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest."

1,683 posted on 07/29/2006 3:03:32 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: TacticalFlashlight

If I may suggest, you will get much further if you do not attempt to condescend to people vastly more knowledgable than yourself. It flouts any image you may hope to convey.

We are glad to help newcomers but it is difficult to help those who snap at us when we offer. Sarcasm will not get you far.


1,684 posted on 07/29/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser; pageonetoo
It looks obvious however, you came not of your own volition but as someone brought in to help out a friend. Am I right?


No, I am afraid you are mistaken. I do not know pageonetoo, if that is the "friend" to whom you are referring. I have been quietly reading these threads for nearly a year now, and was spurred to action by the rudeness and hostility with which a well-meaning poster was treated.

If you read the history through our threads past you would find a huge volume of facts and evidence to balance the raw propaganda put out by the left and their allies in the media, those who hearken to the dark side.


As I said, I have been reading these threads for some time, and also a great deal of information at various other sites around the Net, both from the left and from the right. I have seen facts, distortions, wishful thinking, and outright lies repeated again and again. I have the background information necessary to discuss these matters. Are you willing to do so with me, without name-calling and attacks?
1,685 posted on 07/29/2006 3:22:54 PM PDT by TacticalFlashlight
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To: TacticalFlashlight
No apology necessary. I gave up on these folk. Good intentions can pave a road straight to hell. I appreciate your sentiment.

I have been reviled, but really don't pay much attention to it. I will continue to trust God to sort things out.

It's a shame that so much attention is paid to this issue, while all around us people are dying by the minute. I am one of those old-fashioned guys that actually believes all that stuff written between the pages. My father is a retire Episcopal Prist who thinks their was a drought when Moses came out of Egypt. I believe Moses staff writhed!

It is so easy to get caught up in the temporal world, watching all the violence and nasty behavior. The simplest response is to sign a petition, or complain. God did not make that a priority, when He died on the Cross!

1,686 posted on 07/29/2006 3:37:13 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: TacticalFlashlight
If you have read both sides and still find it equivocal and if you still find the need to defend the dark side, I commend to you these passages from Proverbs. They describe those who come here to disrupt.

Proverbs definition: Fools (and Trolls)

You have not come on to these threads as anyone who wants to discuss. Your tone is set in an all too familiar pattern we have seen many times. It is a waste for whomever you represent because it will show you for what you are and will bump our thread for more to see. I say this because we have discussed ad nausium and it is a counter between facts and evidence and personal knowledge on one side and attempts to disrupt with tired and disproven mantras all in the pseudo-name of "discussion." We have heard it all and I will not be drawn into your logic trap. Others may wish to take you on.

If you have signed on just to disrupt, then you will be unmasked. If you are one of good will, I hope to see it real soon.

1,687 posted on 07/29/2006 3:46:30 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: pageonetoo
It's a shame that so much attention is paid to this issue, while all around us people are dying by the minute.

Then why do you pay so much attention to it? Don't you know people are dying by the minute and here you are wasting time complaining.

1,688 posted on 07/29/2006 3:50:17 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
here you are wasting time complaining.

Not really. I have told a great many people about the saving power in Jesus name. Do you know Him?

I note you still have said nothing to reject the content of my posts, except maybe you have made clear your feelings being hurt. That seems your problem.

Go back and follow the Scriptures I posted, and figure out why I used them! I hope you will come to know Him better.

1,689 posted on 07/29/2006 3:55:09 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
I asked you a real simple question which was: "Then why do you pay so much attention to it?"?

Why don't you answer it?

1,690 posted on 07/29/2006 4:02:15 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Because you fail to answer mine. Please discontinue pinging me with this incessant drivel you spout. I thought I was dealing with Christians. I find am dealing with a lot of religious people!

1,691 posted on 07/29/2006 4:12:06 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Please discontinue pinging me with this incessant drivel you spout.

I will put it this way. If you post here you are susceptible to posts by me. Copy?

1,692 posted on 07/29/2006 4:17:20 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779; pageonetoo

By me, too...

I am a religious person.


1,693 posted on 07/29/2006 4:32:00 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Pharissee?


1,694 posted on 07/29/2006 4:39:51 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo
Pharissee?

Trollissee?

1,695 posted on 07/29/2006 4:43:25 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: pageonetoo
Remember I said haters call people they hate haters? That is called projection. You should learn that word.

Read my post above to the Proverbs verses or I can start quoting them if you prefer.

Fools (and Trolls)

This is why I will not engage you in your attempts to aggravate in the name of "discussion".

1,696 posted on 07/29/2006 4:46:10 PM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
If I may suggest, you will get much further if you do not attempt to condescend to people vastly more knowledgable than yourself. It flouts any image you may hope to convey.


Thanks for the suggestion. I rarely condescend to people, and when I do, it is never to one more knowledgeable than I. So while I appreciate the advice, I fear it is misplaced. :)
1,697 posted on 07/29/2006 5:24:17 PM PDT by TacticalFlashlight
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To: pageonetoo

I applaud your faith. I agree, it is too easy to become ensnared in samsara, the Buddhist term for birth and death. While one should do good where one can, the ultimate goal is not here.


1,698 posted on 07/29/2006 5:29:43 PM PDT by TacticalFlashlight
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To: TacticalFlashlight
As I said, I have been reading these threads for some time, and also a great deal of information at various other sites around the Net, both from the left and from the right. I have seen facts, distortions, wishful thinking, and outright lies repeated again and again. I have the background information necessary to discuss these matters. Are you willing to do so with me, without name-calling and attacks?

As with any unfiltered source of information, there is bound to be some incorrect information, some of it posted by well-meaning but misinformed people. Nonetheless, there are enough facts that are, so far as I can tell, beyond dispute that there is very little room if any for well-informed people to believe that the actions of Michael Schiavo, George Felos, and Judge George Greer were proper.

Tell me with which of the following you disagree:

  1. Michael Schiavo changes his story so many times about so many things that there is no reason to regard anything he says as having any credibility.
  2. Michael's lawyer George Felos wrote a book in which he claimed to be able to read others' desires; he must thus be either a psychic, a narcissicist, or a liar.
  3. No reasonable judge could find on the basis of the testimony of Scott Schiavo that Terri had expressed a desire to be fatally dehydrated, and that such expression was made with the intention of such dehydration actually being carried out.
  4. It's doubtful that a reasonable judge could have found Joan Schiavo's claim of being Terri's "best friend" credible, given that Joan had never seen Terri since she had the feeding tube nor talked to anyone about Terri's supposed "wishes" until seven years after Terri's "collapse". If Joan's claim of being "best friend" was false, nothing she says is credible.
  5. The only plausible way Joan Schiavo's claim to be Terri's "best friend" would not be completely inconsistent with her behavior would be if she did not think Terri had any particularly desire not to live if incapacitated. If that's the case, however, then Joan could not meaningfully testify to Terri's having such a desire.
  6. A proper diagnosis of PVS takes hours or days of examination of a patient by a doctor or an assistant observer operating under specific orders from the doctor.
  7. None of the doctors who testified that Terri was PVS had done what was necessary to make such a diagnosis.
I could go on, but there really doesn't seem to be much room to argue that the actions of Michael et al. were proper unless the above points can be refuted.
1,699 posted on 07/29/2006 5:29:58 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: 8mmMauser

I don't believe I have outlined my position on this matter. I do not defend any "dark side". I have made a good faith offer to discuss with you, which you have rejected. Just out of curiosity, what would constitute evidence of my being "one of good will" for you?


1,700 posted on 07/29/2006 5:32:57 PM PDT by TacticalFlashlight
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