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The war between North and South
BostonGlobe ^ | May 9, 2006 | PETER S. CANELLOS

Posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

WASHINGTON -- Back in the 2004 presidential primaries, when Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont, suggested that Democrats should be competing for the votes of young men with Confederate flags on their pickups, politicians from both parties rushed to accuse him of repeating a vile Southern stereotype: the redneck with antiquated views on race. < SNIP >

''Howard Dean knows about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," quipped Georgia Senator Zell Miller, the conservative Democrat who supported President Bush. ''Sure, we drive pickups, but on the back of those pickups, you see a lot of American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you see hard-working individuals that want to instill values in their children, and you see a very, very strong work ethic in the South. He doesn't understand the South." < SNIP >

Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.< SNIP >

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


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To: usmcobra
you are NOT correct about ANYTHING, except that the DIMocRATS want to get their power back in dixie & are willing to do ANYTHING to do so. they will be UNsuccessful, in their quest, regardless of what they do.

FEW people down in dixie are STUPID/naive enough to believe the DIMocRATS on ANY subject, even if they said only that the sun comes up each morning in the east & sets in the west.

the DIMS ate TOO IGNORANT &of and, WRONG on EVERY subject of importance to dixie's people, including but not limited to: abortion/gun control/welfare/immigration/taxes/prayer in schools/LIBERTY.

and the national DIMs party is seen, by most people i know, as the ENEMY!

free dixie,sw

701 posted on 05/22/2006 2:50:11 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
#632 & #642 are TWO excellent reasons that most people on FR think you're either a DUNCE and/or a TROLL!

free dixie,sw

702 posted on 05/22/2006 3:45:34 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: MamaTexan
WELL SAID!

free dixie,sw

703 posted on 05/22/2006 3:46:24 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner

mark.


704 posted on 05/22/2006 3:51:31 PM PDT by Alia
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To: stand watie

You have never had anyone prove or support your claims that I am either a dunce or a Troll.

In fact I challenge you to do so to the point where a Moderator will have to Zot me based upon your recommendations for what I have posted here to you.

Bottomline here stand, either have me banned for what I have posted here or shut up about how I am a "DU troll".

If you don't I will.


705 posted on 05/22/2006 4:46:42 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: usmcobra
i would be PLEASED if you "ran to tattle" to the mods & ,in the process, got yourself BANNED.

then perhaps, the ones of us who get TIRED of your simplistic, IGNORANT (of HISTORICAL FACTS)& nonsensical ranting about the southland/her flag/her honored dead/memorials would have some PEACE!

i ask you again:

are YOU:

a. IGNORANT of the basic FACTS surrounding TWBTS,

b.a south-HATER,

c.a TROLL, who is here on FR ONLY to "cause trouble"and/or

d.some/all of the above???

free dixie,sw

706 posted on 05/23/2006 9:27:27 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

You know there is a reason why the "report abuse" button exists in this forum, and it isn't so I can "tattle" on you Stand Watie.

It's so that people like you, for instance, that have no intentions of allowing adult discussions on certain subjects or participating in them can be identified and dealt with for the good of this forum.

I haven't wanted to use it yet because honestly I would really like the chance to debate you reasonably and logically in a one on one debate where we share ideas and you don't ignore mine simply because they don't fit the template of your agenda.

But Alas the more you attack me, the more I see that that will never happen.

Perhaps it would be better, for you at least, to never reply to anything I have to say, since you'll never debate what I have to say without trying to discredit what I have said.

After all it worked well for one of your other confeder-buddies, he refuses to challenge me to a debate he knows he cannot win and ignores all my posts. At least in that he is smarter then you, he knows he can't beat me.


707 posted on 05/23/2006 3:01:57 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: usmcobra

Who is this other guy?


708 posted on 05/24/2006 7:21:11 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: usmcobra
on my worst day, scalawag, i'm 10x smarter & better educated than you are, UNLESS as i suspect, you are "playing dumb" & are really a TROLL, who is on FR only to cause trouble.

free dixie,sw

709 posted on 05/24/2006 8:44:47 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
perhaps you should head over (or BACK OVER!) to DU & post your silly questions,nonsense, UNfounded/ignorant opinions, personal attacks & expose your IGNORANCE of the facts about the WBTS,there???

btw, do NOT capitalize my screen-name or any portion thereof. i believe i've asked you to REFRAIN from doing so before. it's a AmerIndian cultural/religious thing.

free dixie,sw

710 posted on 05/24/2006 8:49:43 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Who is this other guy?

Not you, you I like, and actually respect.

711 posted on 05/24/2006 2:13:32 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
in DOUBT that "usmcobra" KNOWS. he seems to KNOW little.

otoh, he has lots of time to post UNknowing, ignorant opinions, to post personal (ad.hominum) attacks on southerners & to generally act like a TROLL, on loan from DU, to "cause trouble" on these threads.

free dixie,sw

712 posted on 05/24/2006 2:25:47 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

Jealous?

You must be to follow me around like a love starved puppy dog craving my attention.


713 posted on 05/25/2006 4:22:47 AM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: usmcobra
well you've done it again.

you have caused me (by posting your usual DUMB-bunny nonsense) to spit coffee all over my keyboard, while doubling up lol AT you.

do you have ANY idea how IGNORANT & INTOLERENT you sound in these self-righteous, childish, rants of yours????

otoh,frankly, i think you're just a TROLL!

free dixie,sw

714 posted on 05/25/2006 2:32:44 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
i can assure you that when you leave FR, never to return, for the environs of DU, that i will NOT follow you.

then/there EVERYONE will think you're JUST GREAT & applaud your every hate-FILLED, scalawag, word & LOUDLY too.

there are a whole bunch of unionist/scalawag EX-FReepers on DU too. they will REALLY welcome you. (for example, Whisky Papa, cvn76, #3 fan & jaguaretype are ALL over there.)

free dixie,sw

715 posted on 05/25/2006 2:40:49 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stand watie

I'm not going any where and certainly not to the DU where I'd be banned in a nano second for my conservative views, you know the ones like holding the democrats in comtempt for all they have done to ruin this country for the last 140 years.


716 posted on 05/25/2006 3:17:46 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: usmcobra
IF you are NOT a TROLL from DU, WHY do you continue to BASH dixie, her flags, her heroes/martyrs, & post STUPID/FALSE DY propaganda about dixie's continuing struggle for LIBERTY & the war against the DY elites (who wouldn't spit on you if you were aflame)?????

in my book, you are either "a plant", TERMINALLY brain-dead/naive and/or a TROLL.

free dixie,sw

717 posted on 05/26/2006 2:20:07 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
"you have caused me to spit coffee all over my keyboard,.."

Norman means he poured it all over his keyboard lol

Neo-confederate coffee

718 posted on 05/26/2006 5:38:43 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: stand watie
WHY do you continue to BASH dixie, her flags, her heroes/martyrs, & post STUPID/FALSE DY propaganda about dixie's continuing struggle for LIBERTY & the war against the DY elites (who wouldn't spit on you if you were aflame)?????

I don't that at all, as I have always pointed out your real enemy is the democrats.

719 posted on 05/26/2006 5:48:21 PM PDT by usmcobra (Marines out of uniform might as well be nude, since they can no longer be recognized as Marines.)
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To: usmcobra
and the DIMocRATS are, as i've posted NUMEROUS times,DYING out in dixie & FEW people care what, if anything, they think. i estimate by 2012 (at the latest) that there will be NO statewide elected officials, who are DIMs.

dixie is headed toward being a ONE party region & that party will be the GOP.

otoh, the DIMocRATS will become a LEFTIST/regional party of the left coast, the northeast & the "rust belt".

free dixie,sw

720 posted on 05/27/2006 7:57:34 AM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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