Posted on 05/09/2006 8:33:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
WASHINGTON -- Back in the 2004 presidential primaries, when Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont, suggested that Democrats should be competing for the votes of young men with Confederate flags on their pickups, politicians from both parties rushed to accuse him of repeating a vile Southern stereotype: the redneck with antiquated views on race. < SNIP >
''Howard Dean knows about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," quipped Georgia Senator Zell Miller, the conservative Democrat who supported President Bush. ''Sure, we drive pickups, but on the back of those pickups, you see a lot of American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you see hard-working individuals that want to instill values in their children, and you see a very, very strong work ethic in the South. He doesn't understand the South." < SNIP >
Many Southerners express outrage at Northern depictions of Confederate-loving Southerners, even as they accede to the idea that the flag has a place in their regional heritage. Only those inside the Southern family circle can truly understand the region's complicated relationship with its own history.< SNIP >
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Borrowing your ideas from Morris Dees?
Since you don't know me or how I act, you're out of line.
Your words speak for themselves. There's an old Southern term for folks like you, care to guess what it is?
The NAACP was created by Republicans to achieve the goals of recontruction sidelined by the Southern Democrats, and it did so until democrats took over it's leadership.
In 1980's when faced with a shortage of funding and almost totally taken over by democrats, the NAACP decided to start a campaign against all confederate landmarks and symbols as a means to fill their coffers and bring black voters in the south into the democrat ranks to replace those democrat white voters lost to The Reagan Revolution.
My Opinion has always been that the democrats have always been the party of race and that republicans have always been the party of equality.
So show me where I am wrong?
You may be southern born but something happened along the way.
Source docs point out many Democrats were pro-union (esp. up North), and the election of Lincoln resulting in secession was not a foregone conclusion, though many state leaders were pulsing the issue.
It's really tough to paint the 1860 Democrats with a broad brush considering they ran 3 candidates with mixed views. The donkeys back then were very different than those of today.
I grew out of the grey uniforms I wore as a child and started to question those things I had been taught in school.
It made me a conservative and a republican.
The south lost their rebellion, and has been writing and rewriting the myths ever since.
Actually it did not. The call for a secession convention supported by Governor Magoffin was soundly defeated in the state legislature. When Lincoln issued his call for troops Kentucky took a neutral stance, a condition which was respected by the Lincoln administration until Leonidas Polk invaded the state with confederate troops in September 1861. The secession convention that met in Kentucky was operating under no legal authority whatsoever.
Source docs point out many Democrats were pro-union (esp. up North), and the election of Lincoln resulting in secession was not a foregone conclusion, though many state leaders were pulsing the issue.
It's really tough to paint the 1860 Democrats with a broad brush considering they ran 3 candidates with mixed views. The donkeys back then were very different than those of today.
What you are ignoring when you say that secession following Lincoln's election was not a foregone conclusion is History. quod erat demonstrandum
He was elected and the southern democrats unhappy with the results seceded like a bunch of children taking their ball of cotton and running home.
The reason I can paint the Democrats of that era with such a broad brush is a single common denominator, they all were in favor the continuation of slavery by any means where as The republican party was created to end slavery. The Northern democrats just weren't willing to break up the union into a bunch of little nations to do so.
Ultimately when you trim away the fat from the issue of secession, what remains is that Southern Democrats seceded from the United States in order to protect their "right" to keep men, women, and children enslaved as private property before laws ending that "right" could be written.
When defend their right to secede you are defending their right to keep a whole race of people enslaved for the sake of their business profits.
Honestly are you willing to do that, are you willing to defend slavery as a legitimate business practice and can you justify those laws Republicans risked the very union of this country to abolish?
I ask you now because sooner or later we are going to face the same sort of battle when Republicans seek to end the right to murder children in the womb. Another so called "right" the democrats have forced upon this country. Will you decide then that Democrats have the right to secede in order to protect their "right" to kill the unborn?
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
about a MILLION Black men are eligible to join the Sons of Confederate Veterans AND we SCV folk want them ALL to join.
tell your buddy that our toll-free phone number is : 1-800-MY DIXIE. it costs $ 3.oo a MONTH to join.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
if they were NOT so busy HATING the southland, they would be some other sort of BIGOT!
free dixie,sw
PITY, that you don't know that you've been LIED TO & made a south-HATING FOOL of, by the south-HATING LEFT out of the northeast.
the "gubmint apruvd pubic screwl sistim" has made FOOLS of MANY in dixie. SADLY, you are NOT alone.
free dixie,sw
I'm at war against the Democrats that have dishonored the confederate flag for almost 140 years, who are you fighting against?
he is SO PREDICTABLE & doesn't know that he has been made a FOOL & south-HATING bigot by their KNOWING LIES!
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
PITY that you've lost your way, scalawag.
free dixie,sw
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