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Bush: Outsourcing painful, but remedy is worse
CNN.com ^ | Friday, March 3, 2006 Posted: 1640 GMT (0040 HKT)

Posted on 03/04/2006 2:25:11 PM PST by Gengis Khan

NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Praising India's expanding economy, President Bush warned Friday that fears about job outsourcing to other nations should not prompt the United States to limit global trade. "It's ... important to remember that when someone loses a job it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families," Bush said in a speech in New Delhi. "It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies move their operations overseas," he said. "Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree."

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To: MNJohnnie
Amazing how the SAME people who scream bloody murder about the size, cost and scope of the Federal Govt what to take ever great portions of the Private Sector and force it into a Statist, Micromanaged Govt System. Big Govt run wild is what Protestionism IS you fools. Guess all that limited Govt/Cut Spending talk is just so much hot air. The last major Protectionist Tarriff was passed during Herbert Hoover's Administration. Go LOOK read the facts of what your ignorant nostrum "protectionism" ACTUALLY creates.

I'm waiting, come explain this statement to us hicks.

122 posted on 03/04/2006 5:39:58 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Gengis Khan

what he should have said, is that the availabilty of low cost global labor pools - destroys what would be the normal investment in automation and invention to improve worker productivity. if a company wants to cut down on their software development costs - they invest in software tools for higher levels of automation. if a company needs higher productivity in call center operations, they invest in automated natural language call center operations.

but the availability of low cost offshore labor, destroys that. its easier to ship US operations offshore, then to invest to make them more productive at home. as a result, the US loses jobs, and loses the investment and jobs that would come from investments in productivity.

its a lose-lose.


123 posted on 03/04/2006 5:44:24 PM PST by oceanview
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To: willstayfree
It's looking as though engineering is a good career for about 15 to 20 years.

And then what? There will be no demand for engineers in the United States? I suppose that is possible; but it is also possible that we will be hit by a giant asteroid.

My guess is that the practice of engineering will change in ways we cannot imagine, but good engineers will continue to be in demand for the next few centuries at least. Unless that asteroid wipes us out first.

124 posted on 03/04/2006 5:46:56 PM PST by Logophile
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To: MNJohnnie
You've threatened me on on two different threads with a zot, I'm still here and you STILL haven't defended your position. Either bring an original thought to this thread or forever be known as a troll.....
125 posted on 03/04/2006 5:53:00 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Do we tell them to take a hike?

Of course not. I'm not against progress. I'm in an industry that has held out against it but is being face with the inevitability of it. I keep thinking about the Model T. Sure, there was a bigger margin per unit building one car at a time, but the Model T was inevitable. I'm OK with that: I encourage my associates to rise to the challenge, adapt, embrace the change, focus on the real function of our business (serving a market), and find the opportunities in the change.

But, as you pointed out, the costs of labor have exacerbated the problem here. And you will forgive me for failing to mention the enormous "regulatory overhead" that any business here must overcome just to keep the lights on; and what about all the legal risk that comes from daring to have an attachable asset?

126 posted on 03/04/2006 5:54:26 PM PST by the invisib1e hand ("Who is it, really, making up your mind?")
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To: Logophile

its going to become a niche profession in the US, and a profession for engineering managers. that's what's going to be left - the top schools like MIT producing cutting edge graduates, and others in the field had best include an MBA as part of their science degrees, if they want jobs where they don't have to compete with workers in India and China.


127 posted on 03/04/2006 5:55:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Gengis Khan; All

I'm in the Service Trades, and outsourcing has no effect on me. I am though sympathetic with the issue of outsourcing.

That said, I'm all for lessening the desire of "foreigners" to madly scramble to the United States ONLY for economic gain, and not for assimilation into American society.

Let all the creepy folk stay in their habitat, instead of making a mockery of Our Founding Father's vision of The Constitution.




128 posted on 03/04/2006 6:00:56 PM PST by Solamente
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To: MNJohnnie
That's right. CLING to your ignorance. Maybe it is this fudemental inability to evolve that explains why the Whine All The Time Choir is in such a panic to avoid "Outsourcing" (Aka EXTICTION). It's Called Capitalism. Learn to live with it. It only works better then every other economic system every tried by man.

Come on, I'm waiting. Spew some more insults and let's throw down.....troll. And try the spell check function, it makes stupid people look less stupid.

129 posted on 03/04/2006 6:09:04 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: A. Pole
It means that only fools will go into engineering.

Why? Are engineers the only ones who are ever laid off?

130 posted on 03/04/2006 6:13:17 PM PST by Logophile
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To: hedgetrimmer
Americans must be resourceful and implement new ideas ant techniques to overcome the negative to outsourcing the unconstitutional actions of our government by replacing elected officials with persons who will uphold the Constitution as they are pledged to do.

Amen!

131 posted on 03/04/2006 6:14:35 PM PST by tryon1ja
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To: MNJohnnie

Yeah here we go again.

I can see where attacking someone on a personal basis, really makes you look intelligent.

Oh, the ALL CAPS was a nice touch.

The fact remains Johnnie boy, middle class jobs are going overseas and nothing is replacing them except for Illegal Aliens.


132 posted on 03/04/2006 6:19:36 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: MNJohnnie

ArneFufkin is that you?


133 posted on 03/04/2006 6:29:11 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Thorin

What's a "real day's work"...digging ditches?


134 posted on 03/04/2006 6:32:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
What's a "real day's work"...digging ditches?

You bet. Digging ditches and driving postholes will get you $9.00-$13.00 an hour, plus $15.00 an hour for the translator. What are they paying at McDonalds.....?

135 posted on 03/04/2006 6:37:08 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: woogmonster

Few would believe that NAFTA and GATT are part of a dark plot to emasculate the greatest strength of America - its middle class.

Few will believe that there are even republicans engaged in this plot, just look at our borders.

We are like frogs being slowly boiled...and its already too late to jump out of the pot.

The adversarial game being played between the liberals and conservatives serves to keep our eyes off of the obvious. This "punch and judy" show keeps conservatives clueless and set up for coming events.

Yes the Globalists are in control and we on the Right lack organization and proper intelligence to act in a concerted manner...thereby giving the globalists free reign.

They are making the constitution worthless and will someday persecute christians and patriots.(it's beginning don't you see it?) Political Correctness isn't an attitude it's a bought and paid for policy and tool of the globalists.

In the mean time we argue and rant over the dangers of the Dems/socialists....having been sucked into the game being played upon America.

The Movie "The Matrix" comes to mind.

May God Help Us!!!


136 posted on 03/04/2006 6:38:58 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: ScreamingFist
So, working at a desk isn't "REAL" work?

Don't take my reply out of context. Look at the post I was replying to.

I have NO idea what the pay at McDonald's. Do you?

But, is a job at McDonald's NOT real work, too?

Ditch diggers, in America, need a translator?

138 posted on 03/04/2006 6:43:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: woogmonster
People's livlihoods have been taken from them.

The same Free Traders who always claim it's not the government's responsibility to protect domestic jobs have no problem with that same government helping corporations find cheaper labor abroad. Apparently the word hypocrisy doesn't exist in their dictionary.

139 posted on 03/04/2006 6:45:09 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: nopardons
Minimum wage at McDonalds. And yes, you normally need a translator/foreman when doing....postholes, roofing, ditchdigging....heavy manual work. Frankly, $10 an hour is fair for that kind of back busting labor, sans taxes makes it down right good money.

It's all real work, but it kills me to see pimply faced white kids at McDonalds making $4.00 an hour when they could be busting butt and hauling in twice as much...times change I guess.....

140 posted on 03/04/2006 6:53:01 PM PST by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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