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Bush will veto any bill to stop port deal
AP ALERT

Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely

ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) — President Bush says the deal allowing an Arab company to take over six major U.S. seaports should go forward and he will veto any bill that would stop it.


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To: defenderSD

"UAE could be a staging area for airstrikes and special forces operations against Iran.'

No? Think?


2,961 posted on 02/22/2006 10:05:04 AM PST by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And sappers. And their numbers seem to be growing.


2,962 posted on 02/22/2006 10:07:19 AM PST by snuffy smiff ("the theory of Communism may be summed up in a single sentence:abolition of private property"-K.Marx)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Jeff.......you could not be more wrong on this 'cult' thing if you tried. It's a convenient cute little phrase for people who disagree with you, but it has NO basis in fact.

I had solid conservative values before I knew George W. Bush existed. I was a Christian 30 years before he was. My political and spiritual values were well in place before he ever came on the scene.

He has influenced me on NOTHING..........(well, I do work out more now because of something he said :). But he DOES reflect the values I already had, and he is implementing things that I feel important, like restoring the military, and standing up for morality and life.

That doesn't mean that I agree with him on everything. I don't. (And I'm not absolutely sure about this port deal yet either).

But I do TRUST him. It's a trust based on his character and his performance......the same trust I had in Ronald Reagan.

And if you don't ever trust anyone, I feel sorry for you. Don't mock those of us who function at a deeper level than you do.

2,963 posted on 02/22/2006 10:07:25 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Good grief, are you are dense?

Oops, bad grammer.

Good grief, you are dense.

2,964 posted on 02/22/2006 10:09:36 AM PST by itsahoot (Any country that does not control its borders, is not a country. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sunnyflorida
I thought the Union thug on Rush sounded exactly like the sucked in freepers.

I wonder if they mind sounding like insane Democrats?

2,965 posted on 02/22/2006 10:09:38 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; jess35
Unlike the two of you, I have no stake in the current administration nor do I aspire to be an elite or neo-con party operative. When FReepers have raised their honest objections, the sneering of the know-it-alls has been very telling. We common folk are just not as smart as you intelligentsia apologists. It's the same scenario played out over and over on this site.

I understand that this is your arena and the rest of us are guests. I have come to learn that conservative, Republican and patriot can be separate categories. Being from common midwest stock, I like to think that I and other family members have not lost our common sense. When something stinks, we say so. The intelligentsia tells us that our perception stinks. So be it. At least, we know where we stand. I count myself a patriot more than the other two categories.

TR encouraged us, nay required us, to question our President.

BTW, the story broke with a February 13 article published on the Military.Com website. We have been discussing this for one week on Free Republic. The breaking story yesterday was the President's veto threat.

Maybe your way is better, since the islamization of America will come sooner rather than later under your plan.

2,966 posted on 02/22/2006 10:15:07 AM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless our troops and their families.)
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To: ohioWfan
Now excuse me while I do something more useful than trying to discuss things with you..........like clean the toilets.

Please be cautious around the handles...our leader needs to remain afloat--at least until someone in the mold of Ronald Reagan (John McCain) gears up to replace him.

2,967 posted on 02/22/2006 10:16:05 AM PST by meandog (For lurking Moo-slew-ems: Sahada: "That which Islam calls "Allah" is Satan and Mohammad is his pig!)
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To: staytrue

----Your veto stats in post 57 are useless. Basically, if the prez and congress are held by the same party, the veto is used the least (kennedy, carter, bush) When the control is split, that is when the veto is used most. It is as simple as that.----

Franklin D. Roosevelt used his veto over SIX HUNDRED TIMES during his entire 12 years in office. And each and every time that veto was exercised, his party enjoyed obscene majorities in both houses.

Bush, on the other hand, had a Democratic Senate for most of the first two years of his term. Did he once exercise his veto? Nope, nope, and nope. He even signed a CFR bill of the exact nature he'd sworn during the 2000 campaign not to support.

Today, the GOP majorities in Congress are nowhere near the two-thirds (or higher) Democratic majorities FDR enjoyed, in both houses.

Shaking hands with George W. Bush while in the Oval Office is a risky proposition. You extend your hand, and he'll whip out a pen and sign your palm before you can pull it away.

-Dan

2,968 posted on 02/22/2006 10:18:47 AM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: meandog
The harder you try to be clever, the more stupid you look.

Your vile insults of this honorable President don't hurt him. But they reveal the dirt inside you.

I'm actually going to take a shower. For you, I suggest internal cleansing that only can come through the Lord.

Good day, meandog. Further insults will not elicit further replies.

2,969 posted on 02/22/2006 10:20:43 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: yellowdoghunter

I think it's noteworthy that the only trustworthy Republican in the Senate, Tom Coburn, immediately questioned the deal and took a stand to investigate. I look forward to reports on the Town Hall meeting.


2,970 posted on 02/22/2006 10:23:29 AM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless our troops and their families.)
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To: Junior_G

"but it is the same unthinking contingent of folks that are unconditionally pro-Bush no matter what the issue, no matter what the circumstances."

A case of "My Bush right or wrong." What's missing there? Country.


2,971 posted on 02/22/2006 10:44:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
A case of "My Bush right or wrong." What's missing there? Country.

Exactly. Those that are stuck in the "My president right or wrong" mode are no different than those that had blind loyalty to Clinton.

This is the exact same crowd that backed the Harriet Miers nomination with blind faith. In fact the exact same arguments are being used - "he has access to information that we don't - we should trust this honorable president".

2,972 posted on 02/22/2006 10:51:14 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta; RegulatorCountry
Completely wrong again, Jeff.

We put country first.......which is why we support President Bush.

You have it completely backwards once again.

2,973 posted on 02/22/2006 11:02:27 AM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: ohioWfan
We put country first.......which is why we support President Bush.

So Bush is in fact the human manifestation of the nation? You don't think that he could ever make a decision that could be bad for the country? You don't think that he should be held accountable for such bad decisions or policies?

Again, if Bush came out and said that Iran is a nation of peace and a great friend to the United States and Israel, the Bushbots would find a way to make it true in their minds.

This isn't very far fetched as you've already found a way to rationalize "Islam is a religion of peace because Bush told me so".

2,974 posted on 02/22/2006 11:08:17 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Those folks add absolutely nothing to the debate other than venom. When you know that somebody's position on an issue is going to be "whatever George Bush said" no matter what the circumstance, they lose all credibility. When Bush is right, they are right. When Bush is wrong, they are wrong. The presence and noteable rudeness of these yes-men (and women) is just noise without substance.


2,975 posted on 02/22/2006 11:11:29 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: ohioWfan
Your vile insults of this honorable President don't hurt him. But they reveal the dirt inside you.

Tell me, Ohio, what is so honorable about him? You state that you are the proud mom of an Iraq war vet (and I thank your son for his service to our country) so please REVIEW what George Bush and Dick Cheney did during the time I WENT to Vietnam (Cheney received three deferments and Bush, by his own admission, only met the bare minimum of ANG points during his last three years of obligated service because he felt necessary to help some political hack in Alabama run for office).
I am a retired Naval Reservist and was easily able to capture more than the 60-point minimum each year I served. In fact, every reservist I knew in the serveral units I affiliated with during my career was able to do the same--because, if you didn't, it was well-reflected in your fitreps.
I don't fault the president because he was caught driving drunk in his youth, and I don't happen to believe rumors about his alleged cocaine usage or that he constantly was late or never showed for his scheduled ANG drills while in 'Bama.
But I do fault him when he becomes so cozy with the likes of someone like Bill Clinton, does nothing about the looming immigration crisis in our country, proposes jobs outsourcing bills such as CAFTA, suggests that his unqualified personal lawyer would make a SC justice, or that "Brownie did a heck of a job" in the worst hurricane to hit the Gulf in a century, and, especially, when he vows to veto a Congressional attempt to prevent an Arab nation, with proven ties to Al Qaeda, from taking over supervision of our vital seaports.
The more George Bush gaffes I see, the more I believe that former Texas Gov. Ann Richards was right about the "silver foot in his mouth" remark!
Your loyalty is well-noted and admirable, thank you very much, but you need to be reminded that Jesus Christ was very loyal to Judas Iscariot and you see what it got him.

2,976 posted on 02/22/2006 11:14:25 AM PST by meandog (For lurking Moo-slew-ems: Sahada: "That which Islam calls "Allah" is Satan and Mohammad is his pig!)
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To: JeffAtlanta
So Bush is in fact the human manifestation of the nation? You don't think that he could ever make a decision that could be bad for the country? You don't think that he should be held accountable for such bad decisions or policies?

Yes he should be accountable but without your vitriol and your arrogance and certainty that you are right and those that disagree with you are wrong.

2,977 posted on 02/22/2006 11:15:20 AM PST by staytrue
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To: JeffAtlanta

"Why would he threaten to veto an item of legislation that is moot?"

Strategery, Jeff ... strategery.


2,978 posted on 02/22/2006 11:16:24 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: staytrue
Yes he should be accountable but without your vitriol and your arrogance and certainty that you are right and those that disagree with you are wrong.

So now questioning the wisdom of one of Bush's actions qualifies as "vitriol and arrogance" in your book?

2,979 posted on 02/22/2006 11:18:02 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: RegulatorCountry
Strategery, Jeff ... strategery.

LOL - someone has actually tried to push that exact idea earlier in the thread.

2,980 posted on 02/22/2006 11:20:35 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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