Posted on 02/21/2006 12:32:20 PM PST by Brian Mosely
ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE (AP) President Bush says the deal allowing an Arab company to take over six major U.S. seaports should go forward and he will veto any bill that would stop it.
>>>It would only render parts of it meaningless just as other ammendments have done in the past.
>>>Regardless, Congress pretty much has the power to do whatever it wants as long as it has a veto-proof majority. One poster said the congress is powerless in this situation which certainly isn't accurate.
Like I said, brain surgery with a .45...but seriously, removing the chief executive would totally warp the sense of checks and balances which even now is biased against the Executive Branch.
Congress can do "what it wants" only when a 2/3 majority exists in BOTH houses--an incredibly unlikely event in this nation's history (unless the Democratic Party implodes, which is more likely than not given their recent actions).
Your country isn't letting my country run your ports. = You're punishing us.
Huh?
It's not just about the ports deal itself, but about President Bush's threat to veto any legislation that may shut out Dubai from ports management in this country.
He would go against the people and their elected representatives having some say in who runs our ports. The President has already set himself against any feedback from patriotic Americans.
His second move was worse than the first. That is what this debate is about, as you'll see from the title of the topic.
Whether or not your arguments in #2244 have any saliency is utterly irrelevent.
The only thing that matters since five minutes into this debacle is that it is a complete political loser.
The President has used up his most valuable political capital for nothing, and given the Democrats national defense credibility when they deserve none.
You'd think the geniuses who run this party would have realized that in about two seconds.
Go figure...
::sigh::
I think the hysterics that have erupted reveal for themselves it was a bad political move. Bad policy move is something I haven't yet firmed an opinion about, though I would agree IF it's a good policy move killing it because of politics would be foolhardy.
Please read my post. If you had, you would have seen the part bolded.
I didn't say that. What I said was that those people who ARE bigoted won't affect the decision, nor should they.
What you said...
Killing a perfectly reasonable deal just because SOME Americans hate ALL Arabs is not good strategery for the WOT.
The implication is that those against the port sell hate Arabs. If not your intent, fine, I'll accept your word. But I reacted to your statement that can be read as I took it.
How original -- Bush is a stupid idiot!! Did you pay a royalty to DU for saying that?
Any argument that begins with "Bush is an idiot" or "Bush is a traitor" is utterly worthless, not to mention childish. Why don't you insult the intelligence of Condoleeza Rice while you are at it?
I'll answer. ...No.
We found a bunch of illegals working at one a while back, don't remember the particulars but.......Oh Well, Just doing jobs that we won't.
LOL -- did you miss his comment about Halliburton? He said he's a-ok with Halliburton running the ports. LOL.
Dubyai is a haven of illicit activity. go figya
I have specified a "veto-proof" majority in every on of my posts on the subject. The republican congress of the reconstructin era are a good example of the powers that congress can wield.
Regardless, it looks very likely that congress does have a veto-proof majority on this issue and the American people would almost certainly support them.
Again, my point is that this issue is not over as one poster claimed - congress can make it a live issue any time it wants.
You'd think the geniuses who run this party would have realized that in about two seconds.
And as we all know so well, you always work for the political winner.
Snicker.
And, yet, folks wanted him to VETO the McCain terrorist amendment. Which he also threatened to VETO and instead merely attached a signing statement.
Folks want him to VETO spending bills, which he has threatened to do, and has not.
In each instance going against our other elected representatives will.
If this is suddenly unacceptable, than conservatives have flip flopped on their views of VETOS.
Gee...knowing that we're so...secure...just makes me feel warm all over. ...Not.
Oh, I don't know....telling them that their companies can't do business with us because they're TERRORISTS just might cause a little harm, ya think?
All I know is this: A British firm is selling their assets to a firm in the UAE, and, port security as we know it today, will not change after the sale of this foreign company falls through.
The inability of Freepers to understand the intricacies of business and government as they relate to our ports is ASTOUNDING and DISAPPOINTING.
Hell froze over when Michael Savage had Chuckie on his radio program Friday night. MSM finally discovered the story today. How long have we been obsessing about it here? That photo of Chuckie in the gay & lesbian parade slays me every time I see it. Every time I need to contact my U.S. Senator, I have Chuckie or Hillary to pick from. Talk about futility.
I live less than fifteen minutes from Sunset Park.
Whenever I go into Manhattan or downtown Brooklyn I take the R train, which runs across Union St. station.
That's the station that three Muslim fanatics were planning on blowing up before they were turned into the NYPD.
It's a few stops away from Atlantic Avenue, where you'll find al-Farooq Mosque.
That's where the "blind sheik" plotted to destroy the WTC the first time.
It's a small trip to the Brooklyn Bridge, where Rashid Boz-who, atonishingly enough, also subscribed to the Religion of Peace-shot up a van filled with yeshiva students.
I went to school in Midwood, which a section of which is labeled "Little Pakistan."
I've known Muslims my entire life-I live in the city where they've perpetrated almost all of their international terror attacks-which is why I'm so suspcious of them.
Just because I'm not some addled, utterly clueless goober who's taken in by whatever New Age pap is churned out by that liberal nitwit Karen Armstrong, or the fulsome apologetics written by Occidentalist idiots like Juan Cole and John Esposito, does not mean I'm not intimately acquainted with TROP (TM.)
Fickle soup, anyone?
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