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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

MORE THAN A CENTURY and a half since Charles Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species," evolution remains a controversial concept among much of the population. The situation is quite different in the scientific community, where evolution is almost universally accepted. Still, attacks on the teaching of evolution continue.

The more recent criticism of evolution comes from proponents of intelligent design, a new label for creation "science." They claim ID is a valid scientific alternative to explaining life on Earth and demand it be taught in science classes in our schools along with evolution.

Although intelligent design is cloaked in the language of science and may appear at first glance to be a viable theory, it clearly is not. In fact, intelligent design is neither a theory nor even a testable hypothesis. It is a nonscientific philosophical conjecture that does not belong in any science curriculum in any school.

A theory in the scientific sense is quite different from how the word is often used in conversation.

Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. They are based on extensive data and their predictions are tested and verified time and again.

Biological evolution -- genetic change over time -- is both a theory and a fact, according to paleontologist Stephen Gould. Virtually all biologists consider the existence of evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated in the lab and in nature today, and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming.

However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanics of evolution, which are supported by data and are constantly being refined by researchers whose work is subject to peer review.

But there are many established facts concerning evolution, according to R.C. Lewontin, Alexander Agassiz Professor Emeritus of Zoology at Harvard University. He, as do virtually all biological scientists, agree that it is a fact that the Earth with liquid water has been around for more than 3.6 billion years and that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period.

We know for a fact that organized multicellular life is at least 800 million years old and that major life forms now on Earth did not exist in the past.

It is considered a fact by biologists that all living forms today come from previous living forms.

A fact is not the same as absolute certitude, which exists only in defined systems such as mathematics. Scientists consider a "fact" to be something that has been confirmed to such a degree of reliability and logic that it would be absurd to think otherwise.

Denying the facts of evolution is akin to denying that gravity exists. What is debatable, with both evolution and gravity, are the theories of the mechanics of how each operates.

Supporters of intelligent design vehemently disagree, but they do not offer alternative theories or verifiable data. Instead, intelligent design proponents attack evolution with misinformation, half-truths and outright falsehoods.

Intelligent design does not develop hypotheses nor does it test anything. As such, intelligent design is simply a conjecture that does not hold up to scrutiny.

False arguments

Unfortunately, intelligent design has considerable credibility outside the scientific community by making specious claims about evolution. Below are some of the leading charges made by intelligent design and creationist proponents in the past several years.

• Evolution has never been observed: But it has. Biologists define evolution as a change in the gene pool of a population of living organisms over time.

For example, insects develop resistance to pesticides. Bacteria mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. The origin of new species by evolution (speciation) has been observed both in the laboratory and in the wild.

Some intelligent design supporters admit this is true, but falsely say that such changes are not enough to account for the diversity of all living things. Logic and observation show that these small incremental changes are enough to account for evolution.

Even without direct observation, there is a mountain of evidence that confirms the existence of evolution.

Biologists make predictions based on evolution about the fossil record, anatomy, genetic sequences and geographical distribution of species. Such predictions have been verified many times, and the number of observations supporting evolution is overwhelming and growing, especially in the field of genetics.

Biologists have not observed one species of animal or plant changing quickly into a far different one. If they did, it would be evidence against evolution.

• Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics: It clearly does not. This law of physics states essentially that disorder increases in a closed system. Some intelligent design and creationist proponents say this means that the order required in the evolution of simple life forms to more complex ones cannot take place, at least not on a long-term basis.

What critics of evolution don't say is that the Earth's environment is not a closed system. It absorbs enormous heat energy from the sun, which is all that is required to supply fuel for the evolution of plants and animals.

Order arises from disorder in the physical world as well, in the formation of crystals and weather systems, for example. It is even more prevalent in dynamic living things.

• There are no transitional fossils: This argument is a flat-out falsehood. Transitional fossils are ones that lie between two lineages with characteristics of both a former and latter lineage. Even though transitional fossils are relatively rare, thousands of them have been found.

There are fossils showing transitions from reptile to mammal, from land animal to whale, the progression of animals leading to the modern horse, and from early apes to humans.

• Theory says that evolution proceeds by random chance: This is an example of a half-truth perpetuated by intelligent design and creation supporters.

Chance is an important element of evolution, but it is not the only thing involved.

This argument ignores other forces such as natural selection, which weeds out dysfunctional species, and is the opposite of chance.

Chance takes place in genetic mutations, which provide the raw material of evolutionary change, which is then modified and refined by natural selection. But even at the genetic level, mutations occur within the framework of the laws of physics and chemistry.

Opponents of evolution argue that chance, even enhanced by natural selection and the laws of physics, is not enough to account for the complexity of DNA, the basic building blocks of almost all life forms. (RNA is the foundation of some microbes). However, there literally were oceans of organic molecules that had hundreds of millions of years to interact to form the first self-replicating molecules that make life possible.

Irreducible complexity

The attack on evolution that intelligent design proponents use most often today is one based on "irreducible complexity." This has become the foundation of their attempts to cast doubt on evolution.

They argue that certain components of living organisms are so complex that they could not have evolved through natural processes without the direct intervention of an intelligent designer.

Michael Behe, a leading proponent of intelligent design, defined irreducibly complex as "a system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning."

In other words, irreducible complexity refers to an organism that does something (a function) in such a way that a portion of the organism that performs the function (a system) has no more parts than are absolutely necessary.

The argument made is that the entire system with all its parts, such as an enzyme used in digestion or a flagellum used to propel a bacterium (an example Behe favors in his defense of irreducible complexity), would have to come into being at one time -- a virtual impossibility.

If one of the parts were missing, Behe argues, the system would not be able to function, and thus a simpler, earlier evolving system could not exist.

It is not as easy as it may appear at first glance to define irreducible complexity because there is not a good definition of what a part is. Is it a particular type of tissue, a cell, or segment of DNA? Behe is not clear. But even if he were able to define a true IC system, his argument would fail.

There are several ways an irreducible complexity system could evolve. An early version could have more parts than necessary for a particular function. The individual parts could evolve. Most likely, an earlier version of the system could have had a different function.

This is observed in nature. For example, take the tail-like flagellum of a bacteria, which Behe says supports irreducible complexity. It is used for functions other than motion. A flagellum can be used to attach a bacteria to a cell or to detect a food source.

Thus, a precursor to a more complex flagellum could have had a useful, but different, function with fewer parts. Its function would have changed as the system evolved.

Simply put, the irreducibly complex system argument doesn't work. Most, if not all, of the irreducible complexity systems mentioned by intelligent design adherents are not truly IC. Even if they were, they clearly could have evolved. That is the consensus of almost all biological scientists.

Intelligent design is not science

The theory of evolution and common descent were once controversial in scientific circles. This is no longer the case.

Debates continue about how various aspects of evolution work. However, evolution and common descent are considered fact by the scientific community.

Scientific creationism, or intelligent design, is not science. Believers of intelligent design do not base their objections on scientific reasoning or data.

Instead, it appears that their ideas are based on religious dogma. They create straw men like irreducible complexity or lack of transitional fossils, and shoot them down. They fabricate data, quote scientists out of context and appeal to emotions.

Intelligent design disciples do not conduct scientific experiments, nor do they seek publication in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Still, they have had an impact far beyond the merits of their arguments.

One of their most persuasive arguments is an appeal to fair play, pleading to present both sides of the argument. The answer is no. They do not present a valid scientific argument.

Within the scientific community, there is virtually no acceptance of intelligent design. It has no more place in a biology class than astrology in an astronomy class or alchemy in a chemistry class.


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To: Thatcherite

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=414

Where do your get your 7th century date? "The actual tablets date back to around 650 BC and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 BC"


2,201 posted on 02/19/2006 7:45:30 AM PST by TexCon ("Strike while the iron is hot, and make it hotter by striking"-Oliver Cromwell)
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To: BMCDA; Doctor Stochastic; b_sharp
For some strange reason this ominous designer only reuses code that's been inherited from previous versions but never code from other unrelated 'source code' which means that he has to "reinvent the wheel" quite often. In other words, if you look at the work of this "designer" you get a treelike structure whereas if you examine the way humans usually design things, you get more of a spider's web.

[Consulting my Magic 8-Ball ...]

The answer is simple, you godless, materialist, commie, sodomite, kiddie-porn producing, lake-of-fire-bound fool. The Designer, having done His Glorious Work, then assigned further Designs to Teams of Designers, giving each such Team one of the Designed Kinds to work with. The Designer Teams obviously don't share their coding secrets with each other. You will learn these things, eventually, but it will be too late; I laugh at your fate.
</creationism mode>

2,202 posted on 02/19/2006 8:05:02 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

A statistical fluke!


2,203 posted on 02/19/2006 8:06:05 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: TexCon
From your source:

Dating of the oldest fragments of the Gilgamesh account originally indicated that it was older than the assumed dating of Genesis.21 However, the probability exists that the Biblical account had been preserved either as an oral tradition, or in written form handed down from Noah, through the patriarchs and eventually to Moses, thereby making it actually older than the Sumerian accounts which were restatements (with alterations) to the original.

A popular theory, proposed by liberal "scholars," said that the Hebrews "borrowed" from the Babylonians, but no conclusive proof has ever been offered....

Reading the above carefully, you see an admission that the oldest primary sources we have make the Gilgamesh tale considerably older than the earliest primary sources for the Noah tale. They then handwave around this by trying to claim that somehow the Noah story was preserved *orally* more accurately than the written-down Gilgamesh version, or that hypothetical earlier written accounts existed (evidence please?). When they refer to "liberal" scholars, what they actually mean is "all scholars who didn't sign up to the inerrant truth of the Noah story before they looked at the evidence." Archeology like other sciences doesn't deal in proof; it deals in evidence. The Gilgamesh primary source is considerably older than the Noah primary source and remarkably similar to it in many ways (but not in ways that support the Genesis morality tale). The sensible conclusion to be drawn is utterly obvious to everyone who hasn't already signed up to the literal truth of Genesis. The Noah story is derivative of the Epic of Gilgamesh

The word "originally" in the ICR quote is particularly disengenuous. No contradictory evidence has ever appeared that would make a different conclusion from the "original" one valid. A casual reader might draw a different conclusion from this unnecessary word.

Finally, trying to get the truth about anything related to the age of the earth, geology, or biology, from ICR is a bit like trying to determine the truth about conservatism from Michael Moore movies.

2,204 posted on 02/19/2006 8:19:03 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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"Creationist websites rot your brain" placemark


2,205 posted on 02/19/2006 8:34:42 AM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: VadeRetro

If we get a much anticipated contract this year, yes.


2,206 posted on 02/19/2006 8:41:16 AM PST by GregoryFul
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To: BMCDA
For some strange reason this ominous designer only reuses code that's been inherited from previous versions but never code from other unrelated 'source code' which means that he has to "reinvent the wheel" quite often. In other words, if you look at the work of this "designer" you get a treelike structure whereas if you examine the way humans usually design things, you get more of a spider's web.

Plenty of biological evidence that the design of the world is trellis-like, a harmony really with plenty of interconnections.

See for one example, a "molecule of the month", Methyl Jasmonate .

2,207 posted on 02/19/2006 8:54:50 AM PST by bvw (Ideas Evolve!)
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To: bvw
Plenty of biological evidence that the design of the world is trellis-like, a harmony really with plenty of interconnections. See for one example, a "molecule of the month", Methyl Jasmonate .

Brilliant! I've also just noticed that many other organic molecules apart from the one you cite use elements like Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen in profusion, often bonded the same way. Further evidence of design!

2,208 posted on 02/19/2006 9:03:16 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Thatcherite
You don't have to feign ignorance, do you now?
2,209 posted on 02/19/2006 9:06:51 AM PST by bvw (Ideas Evolve!)
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To: grey_whiskers
"Hey! You forgot the horseshoe crab! :-)

I'm sorry I didn't mention your crabs, I thought it may have been too personal.

2,210 posted on 02/19/2006 10:02:56 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: grey_whiskers
"Please don't start a Microsoft/Apple or Microsoft/Linux flamewar too :-)

I personally use Windows, not because I prefer it but because my customers all use it. I do have a number of systems in my home that run Linux and do prefer those as servers. I just hate the difficulty in setting up new hardware.

"PS Why "lazy" particularly? Do you have the original design specs for DNA?

Lazy because there appears to be no internal documentation. If a human programmer bypasses the internal documentation debugging can be a real pain at a later time. Only really lazy programmers omit that documentation. It isn't lazy to re-use code snippets or to remove segments from compiling and linking but it is lazy to omit the reason the code is removed from the exe. but not the source.

"And do you know the development hardware is free from malware and hackers?"

Just how many Gods or aliens are we subject to the whims of? And just who wrote the malware?

PS. I have many gray whiskers but no gray hair.

2,211 posted on 02/19/2006 10:18:54 AM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: b_sharp
Just how many Gods or aliens are we subject to the whims of? And just who wrote the malware?

There is a serious point there. The proponents of Design seldom point out that if design is involved in DNA then it sure looks like teams of competing designers who were all given the same starting template to work with. They try to defeat each others phenotypes, use hacking techniques and trojan horses to infiltrate each other's genotypes, and in general appear to be trying to destroy the work of the thousands (millions?) of rival teams and both a genotype and phenotype level. Or of course it could just be randomness and natural selection/drift/sexual selection etc. Nah...

2,212 posted on 02/19/2006 10:56:56 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: Thatcherite

...at both a genotype and phenotype level... doh!


2,213 posted on 02/19/2006 10:57:44 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: b_sharp

Maybe our entire planet is someone else's Multi-User-God-Game. Populace 8, with a bit of Civilization 8 thrown in...


2,214 posted on 02/19/2006 10:59:47 AM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: TexCon
Where do your get your 7th century date? "The actual tablets date back to around 650 BC and are obviously not originals since fragments of the flood story have been found on tablets dated around 2,000 BC"

To expand on my original answer, and to respond to the question that you asked rather than the website that you directed me to.

The earliest primary source for the old testament that we have is the Dead Sea Scrolls, which were written between 300BC and 100BC. We have a complete copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh dating to around 650BC, and we have fragments of the Epic of Gilgamesh dating to 2000BC, which would be only a couple of hundred years after the Noachian deluge, if the Bible's timeline were correct. Even the ICR site, a site that pushes Biblical literalist interpretation doesn't attempt to disagree with those dates. In the light of those dates the ICR's handwaving about "oral tradition" appears to smack of desperation.

2,215 posted on 02/19/2006 12:00:53 PM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: VadeRetro; GregoryFul
GF: My company retains 40 year old Fortran as if it were the Tablets of Moses. And it ain't no small company.

VR: Do they need programmers? :-O

Make that two of us! 8-) (<---emoticon wearing cool shades)

Cheers!

Full Disclosure: Do they still use VAX ??

2,216 posted on 02/19/2006 12:21:41 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: b_sharp
I'm sorry I didn't mention your crabs, I thought it may have been too personal.

Parts of Maryland / Delaware are loaded with them, it's a treat to see a 220 million year old living fossil.

I thought horseshoe crabs could be cured by a competent farrier. . . :-)

2,217 posted on 02/19/2006 12:24:21 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Thatcherite
Just how many Gods or aliens are we subject to the whims of? And just who wrote the malware?

There's the rub. A lot of the debate on ID / creation / whatnot seem to make a lot of simplifying assumptions with regard to the methods and number of, well, supernatural agents involved. Think of that old movie Time Bandits or in another bent some of the discussion of Merlin and his elementals in C.S. Lewis' That Hideous Strength; or even in J.R.R. Tolkien's books in which one of the Valar went off and created the dwarven folks on his own. There is a rich panoply of suggestions out there which do not comport neatly to the goddiditTM. There mere presence does not make them veridical, of course. But if we allow for the possibility of supernatural interference, even if just for the moment, for the purposes of amusement, then it seems odd to limit oneself -- maybe it's Occam's razor kicking in again--"don't multiply supernatural entities either." The whole problem is there is no way to put 6.2 ml of Thrones, Dominations, Principalities, etc. into a test tube and titrate it; nor can one "salt out" Maxwell's Daemon or any other for the purposes of refining the estimate of its molecular weight ;-) ("Non falsifiable" and all that...)

There is a serious point there. The proponents of Design seldom point out that if design is involved in DNA then it sure looks like teams of competing designers who were all given the same starting template to work with. They try to defeat each others phenotypes, use hacking techniques and trojan horses to infiltrate each other's genotypes, and in general appear to be trying to destroy the work of the thousands (millions?) of rival teams and both a genotype and phenotype level. Or of course it could just be randomness and natural selection/drift/sexual selection etc. Nah...

Aye, why should panspermia be the result of a monolithic alien race, rather than the mess that software and IT integration is on earch?

Stirring the pot.

2,218 posted on 02/19/2006 12:33:29 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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"Supernatural entities should not be needlessly multiplied" placemarker.

[G]

2,219 posted on 02/19/2006 1:27:06 PM PST by Thatcherite (More abrasive blackguard than SeaLion or ModernMan)
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To: bvw
See for one example, a "molecule of the month", Methyl Jasmonate .

I prefer the series, Ethyl Osculate, Ethyl Palpitate, and finally, Ethyl Reciprocate ;-)

Cheers!

2,220 posted on 02/19/2006 2:25:26 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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