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Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows
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happy new year's, IIntense, and everyone else, i'm moving into silence mode
and, freedumb, how do you define "last"? but the start "some chick goes out to get laid and gets dead" is a deliberate sucker punch to the regulars here, and are the kind of words people get cracked over the head with a cue stick over (even though we all admit in the new year that violence is wrong...very, very wrong) and i regret this is all electronic, my friend, because we really should speak face to face so i can clearly hear your tone as you say that again...natalee dead and jerks like you breathing air; its a funny world
I wouldn't bother with translation into papiemento.....they will be so intrigued with receiving them in english that they will get them translated, which will also serve to increase exposure.
I would only send to folks with Aruban names, and not waste the effort on Dutch of Euro sounding names, as they will likely go into the trash on receipt. Here is the start of the "Croes" listings.....once there, click "next page" or just change the page number (last numbers) in the URL below:
http://arubayp.com/whitebook.html?PageNumber=40
Obviously freedumb has a "bone to pick" with those who want justice done for Natalee and her family. Quoting, "...some chick goes out to get laid and gets dead" is an outrageous comment to make.
Is that what Natalee confided to you, freedumb? And did she also tell you, and no one else, that she was willing to die in the process?
With all due respect my recommendation to freedumb is to be very careful of how you judge others. We are often called upon to "eat our words."
On the homefront, we allowed our daughter, a student at a fine arts university, to take a trip to Russia with her class and teachers. She was 19-20 at the time and came back safely. Should we have denied her the opportunity? Maybe that's not a good comparison of the high school trips to islands, but some might have advised us not to allow the trip to Russia.
Life, all of it, is a gamble. We have to be wise, vigilant. Natalee's mom truly believed she'd be okay. All the other students returned home, regardless of their Aruban freedom and "adventures".
Until proven otherwise, someone or more than one is responsible for Natalee's death. (As of now, I tend to believe she is not alive.)
Aruba has mismanaged this whole investigation. People want answers.
You didn't address this ridiculous question to me but I want to respond to you.
Do you have an IQ that is high enough to evaluate a remark like that? Obviously not or your good sense wouldn't have allowed it.
It comes across to me as a pathetic attack, not worthy of a response.
I will ignore your posts from now on and hope that everyone else on this thread agrees with me.
That reminds me. I have wondered why CC was never in the news after his meeting with Beth and Jug that first night, and his interview early-on with Greta. I am going to write to him first. In his interview he impressed me as an intelligent man who knows a lot about what goes on in Aruba.
Oh, if only our FBI had the power to interrogate these liars! Maybe, just maybe, they could ferret out the truth.
A very Happy New Year to you and all the FReepers. May 2006 bring Natalee's family the answers they have valiantly tried to find.
From the Freerepublic Home page: We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption...
How many will be saved because government corruption is rooted out in Aruba?
CC has been reined in by ALE. He was arrested (for domestic battery or something similar,) held for a time, and has now gotten on board with the Task Force's agenda that Joran had nothing to do with NH's disappearance. If he hasn't recanted most of what he originally said, he's gone silent on anything he knows about Aruba, what goes on there, and anything about the NH case. As far as I have seen, his "case" is still pending.
A Happy and Prosperous New Year to all my FR friends and a wish that Beth will find a resolution and have peace in the coming year.
I responded according to the displayed maturity and mentality of the poster to me. To wit:
oh yeah, that strange rectangle thing over there in the wall? that's called a door; they are really cool and fun, enjoy. i forget your name when you posted with latin before, but that's because everything stated by you including the name is not important enough for memory...go find a hate blog to play on, and remember, its new year's eve; mental masterbation is okay at your one person party
i know you are, but what am i?
Posted by nuntukamen to freedumb2003 On Smoky Backroom 12/31/2005 7:29:09 PM PST · 2,272 of 2,289
When someone posts as a child, I treat them as such. What cracks me up is how many of you came running to the defense of someone that would post such drivel (LOL)! You think this to be the height of wit and repartee? Is that the representative mentality of all of you?
You guys don't "own" this thread. We're in smokey backroom, so it is a little wild and wooly.
I repeat my original question: Why in the world have there been 17 threads on this very minor (although sad) incident? Is it anti-Arruba? Pro 17-yo girls going on island vacations unchaperoned?
What is the underling principle? At least Shaivo had some very fundamental principles at stake.
I would however, like to apologize for using the word "slut." I have no factual knowledge of how Miss Holloway conducted herself, so that was a bit over the top. But the othetr half of the question remains -- what was she doing at that time of night by herself in a strange place, observed drinking heavily? On her way from choir practice to the old people's home?
Educate me. I'm all eyes.
very, very good observation, the voidance from the publicity surrounding natalee's disappearance of this man is extremely suspicious...he accompanied everyone on the first night; he speaks papiente and knows what exactly was said between ALE and the Slooters, and his ominous prediction of the shock that would be felt when the reality in detail of her experience becomes clear speaks volumes in a few words and still hangs heavily in the back of my mind...one of the great advantages of this thread is having this multiplied brain power of recall (like the yellow station wagon spotted in a distantly passed photo by Vn_survivor_67-68 and the creative effort that is marvelously successful to make investigation personnel from the US aware of these thoughts and discoveries)...i say several of us, myself included, write him for his own view on what has since occured and see if he responds...i am also going to leave an email for any of these folks to respond at in order to accelereate ease in expressing their thoughts, and this goes for the everyday joe's there, too...i will emphasize to fellow freepers that i was inundated with suspicious emails containing potentially computer deadly viruses for a time after my initial connections via email in aruba, those have since stopped since none were opened--and i did flatout accuse the ATA of being responsible and wrote them that our FBI could track these emails if necessary (i always utilize my ohio political affiliations when directly communicating with arubans--it never hurts to make the bogeyman's shadow look larger by throwing some darkness on the wall, especially when telling ghost stories to children) ---odd they stopped right after, even if the FBI nonsense was just a juke and a feint...best be warned and wary, though; there are some bitter people down there
"...what was she doing at that time of night by herself in a strange place, observed drinking heavily?"
the first part of the above (the actual question) demonstrates your ignorance of this case......and the defense allegation you added at the end rings hollow to those who know this case....
I'm sorry, do you have some point to make, or is it just your narcissism flaring up again?
You avoid the question admirably. This is a classic response and it is my fault for packing too much into one post. It allows the responder to construct a strawman.
I will try again:
Why does this case rate 17 threads? What are the underlying principles you are discusssing?
".....it is my fault for packing too much into one post."
No it was not "too much"......
it is your fault, though, that you revealed "just enough" of your ignorance of the course of events that night and your flip and contemptuous attitude toward this case.
With that in mind, what makes you think anyone here cares to discuss it with you, esp as you insist on more of the same while attempting to demand answers from us?
You are a poor judge of character, and it is easy to see why......ahhh....you've lived a lifetime of this, I am sure, so why waste my time? I'm sure that being an arrogant coldfish prick somehow rewards you, doesn't it?
IOW you guys just keep this wound open just as a place to socialize.
Sorry, but it is facinating.
I'll check by on Thread 20 or so.
You can ignore me again then.
re: #2289
that explains a lot...thanks for detailed update
Even if Natalee had been drinking heavily, Even if Natalee had been flirting, even if if she had made out with - keep filling in as far as you want to go with this. NO one, and I repeat NO one has the right to kill her - and as an American she has the right to think that a. her family; b. her fellow citizens care enough to try to pursue justice.
Aruba as a whole has mucked up the investigation, so Aruba as a whole gets to feel the financial hurt until her mother is told where she is, or justice is pursued as to those that have done her harm. ANY parent has the right to bury their child if something bad has happened to them -
There now your question has been answered. Your obviously jealous that you don't have any type of socialization in real life (or you would understand) and you're so obnoxious on this forum, you probably have little socialization here. But you're can hide behind "conservatism" and be a judgmental self-righteous fool - since you're hidden behind a cloak of anonymity. But if ALL you're going to do is be disruptive - not add anything of value to the thread (all you're doing is putting down people on the thread, and using innuendo against Natalee--nothing positive or of value there) - then there's no reason to come back, and the moderators have been fairly cooperative in ensuring this thread stays on friendly terms.
Again, shame on you.
Happy New Year of 2006!
May this be the year that Natalee Holloway's murderers are prosecuted, convicted, and jailed (again) for the rest of their maggoty godforsaken lives.
May this also be the year that Aruba goes bankrupt from the boycott.
>>Will there be 'ruffies' slipped into Mama's drink, and belly shots taken off her considerable belly?<<
They must have been serving pitchers off of that ample belly!
Do you think she wore that snazzy outfit with the humongous white bra under the see-through black blouse?
the "i know you are, but what am i" comes from Peewee Herman's Big Adventure, childman, and was directed not from a childish mind , but to one, but hey, what would kids know? YOU CAME HERE TO ATTACK WITH SUCKERPUNCHING VENOM IN YOUR OWN WORDS--ARE THOSE YOUR EXAMPLE OF MATRURITY? we know who you are, pablumbreath, the latin gave you away, so keep hanging around verbally jacking off on our corner; you're the type that fantasizes that what happened in aruba is okay and why couldn't you have been lucky to be with the perps...the cops pick you up eventually, so just keep up your droning effort...
but from my own direction i bless you with silence
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