Gay or European?

Traveleronline ^ | 10/12/05 | Yvette Scorse

[pissant]

My gaydar is off. It's not just the European man capris, tight jeans and Spanish lisp.

This weekend, I went out with an American friend, her Spanish boyfriend and a bunch of his Spanish guy friends. I've been out with them before, but I left the discoteca (club) "Boom!" on Thursday as confused as ever.

The guys grind with each other, touch each other, flirt, everything. Yet, my American friend swears up and down that they're not really gay, just European.

I'm not sure where this line is drawn, but if you ask me, they act pretty gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I don't get it. They dance with girls for a few songs, and then they're magnetically drawn to dance with another guy's butt. And it's not just dirty dancing; they spin each other and twirl and dance like they've been ballroom partners all their lives. I'm not quite sure how they figure out which one leads.

In America, it's perfectly common and fun for girls to go to a party or a club with their best girl friends and dance with each other. But I can't imagine any of my straight American guy friends grinding up against each other and enjoying it. And girls wouldn't particularly enjoy watching a couple of guys grind either.

Yes, it's a double standard, but it's something about homophobic American guys that would prevent them from dirty dancing with each other.

Every time I go out with these guys, I'm not sure how far the gayness will go, but I swear, at any moment they're gonna start making out.

Actually, one of these "gay" Spaniards did lick my American friend Dan's ear this weekend. Although Dan isn't uptight about the European man dancing, the ear licking went a little too far for him. I suppose contact with another guy's tongue is where an American boy draws the line.

I'm still not sure if this is normal behavior in Barcelona or just a custom among this group of "gay" European friends.

After four nights in a row of discotecas this weekend, I have decided that it's generally hard to tell if the chicos are gay or not. The most attractive, well-dressed ones are, of course, usually gay, as is the rule in America. But seeing a guapo (hot guy) dancing with other chicos does not provide conclusive evidence that they are gay.

And then, of course, there are the American guys in our group who are most obviously gay but in denial, which is a confusing situation on the other side of the spectrum.

If a guy dresses gay, talks gay and hangs out with a bunch of girlfriends he isn't attracted to, he is gay. If he were Spanish, he'd be out of the closet, or he could still claim to be straight and grind with any other chico in the discoteca.

Yvette Scorse is a staff columnist. She is studying abroad in Spain.

[pissant]

Do we need a freeper disco night? ROFL

[pissant]

Tell me this is not common in Scandanavia....please!

[xcamel]

Al'Gayda in europa?

[pissant]

LOL. I think alot of those terrorists have tassled loafers by day. ;o)

[darkangel82]

Yes, it's a double standard, but it's something about homophobic American guys that would prevent them from dirty dancing with each other.

Or maybe we just don't like getting up close with nasty, sweaty guys. Nothing to do with "homophobia".

[Millee]

As a favor, please post "Not a Vanity" whenever you're posting from an article. The whole time I'm reading this I'm thinking, "pissant, of course they're gay what the hell are ya thinking. Why are you hanging out with them?" My image of you was momentarily destroyed. Now please post one of your sex threads so all will be right in the world. ;o)

[pissant]

phobia means fear. It is not fear that keeps 98% of guys from acted thusly. It is distaste, I'm guessing.

[End Times Sentinel]

I worked my way through college in a hotel that had quite a few europeans as guests and I became pretty good at spotting them quickly (they were terrible tippers) and distinguishing them from homos (who were really good tippers, perhaps the only mitigating factor in their existence).

While euros tend to look like queers on the surface, they can be distinguished by doing things like wearing glasses that are weird colors (who would buy a pair of blue glasses?), shoes that no American would ever wear (red dress shoes?), carrying man purses, and wearing cheap sport coats with jeans.  The key here, is when the writer tells us these guys were grinding on eachother, that's a double whammy, euro AND fags.

Of course having Rick Steves traipsing around their continent with his rucksack and short shorts probably doesn't do much for their perception of us (God only knows what he does when the camera is off), but screw them.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
it was probably sarcasm)

[pissant]

My real name is Yvette. LOL

[AmishDude]

Real men hate dancing. Hate it. We only do it because chicks like it. And even then, we don't do it.

[darkangel82]

Exactly.

[pissant]

ROFL. I don't Rick Steves is manly enough to be a euro gay. ;o)

[pissant]

In high school I liked slam dancing, but that was the extent of my soft shoe experience. ;o)

[KC_Conspirator]

The guys grind with each other, touch each other, flirt, everything. Yet, my American friend swears up and down that they're not really gay, just European.

I noticed this years ago in Cancun and Play del Carmen. All these Euro guys dressed like Dieder from "Sprockets", dancing at a club with one another.

[N. Theknow]

Homophobia is a homosexual who calls himself gay because he can't stand the word homosexual.

They really hate it when you call them homosexuals.

It's the same as liberals calling themselves progressive.

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

You know you carry a man purse. Do not try and hide it now!

[pissant]

Is that why you scedule a yearly trip to Cancun? LOL

[Spruce]

Chicks dancing with each other is hot.
Men dancing with other men is way friggin gay.

[Mathews]

No way! Say it ain't so... you're a... a... GIRL?

[darkangel82]

It's the same as liberals calling themselves progressive.

That's their code word for "socialist."