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Gay or European?
Traveleronline ^ | 10/12/05 | Yvette Scorse

Posted on 10/25/2005 11:31:17 AM PDT by pissant

My gaydar is off. It's not just the European man capris, tight jeans and Spanish lisp.

This weekend, I went out with an American friend, her Spanish boyfriend and a bunch of his Spanish guy friends. I've been out with them before, but I left the discoteca (club) "Boom!" on Thursday as confused as ever.

The guys grind with each other, touch each other, flirt, everything. Yet, my American friend swears up and down that they're not really gay, just European.

I'm not sure where this line is drawn, but if you ask me, they act pretty gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I don't get it. They dance with girls for a few songs, and then they're magnetically drawn to dance with another guy's butt. And it's not just dirty dancing; they spin each other and twirl and dance like they've been ballroom partners all their lives. I'm not quite sure how they figure out which one leads.

In America, it's perfectly common and fun for girls to go to a party or a club with their best girl friends and dance with each other. But I can't imagine any of my straight American guy friends grinding up against each other and enjoying it. And girls wouldn't particularly enjoy watching a couple of guys grind either.

Yes, it's a double standard, but it's something about homophobic American guys that would prevent them from dirty dancing with each other.

Every time I go out with these guys, I'm not sure how far the gayness will go, but I swear, at any moment they're gonna start making out.

Actually, one of these "gay" Spaniards did lick my American friend Dan's ear this weekend. Although Dan isn't uptight about the European man dancing, the ear licking went a little too far for him. I suppose contact with another guy's tongue is where an American boy draws the line.

I'm still not sure if this is normal behavior in Barcelona or just a custom among this group of "gay" European friends.

After four nights in a row of discotecas this weekend, I have decided that it's generally hard to tell if the chicos are gay or not. The most attractive, well-dressed ones are, of course, usually gay, as is the rule in America. But seeing a guapo (hot guy) dancing with other chicos does not provide conclusive evidence that they are gay.

And then, of course, there are the American guys in our group who are most obviously gay but in denial, which is a confusing situation on the other side of the spectrum.

If a guy dresses gay, talks gay and hangs out with a bunch of girlfriends he isn't attracted to, he is gay. If he were Spanish, he'd be out of the closet, or he could still claim to be straight and grind with any other chico in the discoteca.

Yvette Scorse is a staff columnist. She is studying abroad in Spain.


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Do we need a freeper disco night? ROFL
1 posted on 10/25/2005 11:31:17 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Eurotwit

Tell me this is not common in Scandanavia....please!


2 posted on 10/25/2005 11:34:43 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Al'Gayda in europa?


3 posted on 10/25/2005 11:35:26 AM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: xcamel

LOL. I think alot of those terrorists have tassled loafers by day. ;o)


4 posted on 10/25/2005 11:36:19 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Yes, it's a double standard, but it's something about homophobic American guys that would prevent them from dirty dancing with each other.

Or maybe we just don't like getting up close with nasty, sweaty guys. Nothing to do with "homophobia".

5 posted on 10/25/2005 11:37:34 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: pissant

As a favor, please post "Not a Vanity" whenever you're posting from an article. The whole time I'm reading this I'm thinking, "pissant, of course they're gay what the hell are ya thinking. Why are you hanging out with them?" My image of you was momentarily destroyed. Now please post one of your sex threads so all will be right in the world. ;o)


6 posted on 10/25/2005 11:39:57 AM PDT by Millee (As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!)
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To: darkangel82

phobia means fear. It is not fear that keeps 98% of guys from acted thusly. It is distaste, I'm guessing.


7 posted on 10/25/2005 11:40:05 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant; Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I worked my way through college in a hotel that had quite a few europeans as guests and I became pretty good at spotting them quickly (they were terrible tippers) and distinguishing them from homos (who were really good tippers, perhaps the only mitigating factor in their existence).

While euros tend to look like queers on the surface, they can be distinguished by doing things like wearing glasses that are weird colors (who would buy a pair of blue glasses?), shoes that no American would ever wear (red dress shoes?), carrying man purses, and wearing cheap sport coats with jeans.  The key here, is when the writer tells us these guys were grinding on eachother, that's a double whammy, euro AND fags.

Of course having Rick Steves traipsing around their continent with his rucksack and short shorts probably doesn't do much for their perception of us (God only knows what he does when the camera is off), but screw them.

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,
it was probably sarcasm)

8 posted on 10/25/2005 11:40:49 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Millee

My real name is Yvette. LOL


9 posted on 10/25/2005 11:40:55 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Real men hate dancing. Hate it. We only do it because chicks like it. And even then, we don't do it.


10 posted on 10/25/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by AmishDude (If Miers isn't qualified, neither are you and you have no right to complain about any SC decision.)
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To: pissant

Exactly.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Owl_Eagle

ROFL. I don't Rick Steves is manly enough to be a euro gay. ;o)


12 posted on 10/25/2005 11:42:31 AM PDT by pissant
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To: AmishDude

In high school I liked slam dancing, but that was the extent of my soft shoe experience. ;o)


13 posted on 10/25/2005 11:44:10 AM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
The guys grind with each other, touch each other, flirt, everything. Yet, my American friend swears up and down that they're not really gay, just European.

I noticed this years ago in Cancun and Play del Carmen. All these Euro guys dressed like Dieder from "Sprockets", dancing at a club with one another.

14 posted on 10/25/2005 11:46:05 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: pissant
Homophobia is a homosexual who calls himself gay because he can't stand the word homosexual.

They really hate it when you call them homosexuals.

It's the same as liberals calling themselves progressive.

15 posted on 10/25/2005 11:47:01 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

You know you carry a man purse. Do not try and hide it now!


16 posted on 10/25/2005 11:47:09 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Is that why you scedule a yearly trip to Cancun? LOL


17 posted on 10/25/2005 11:47:37 AM PDT by pissant
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To: AmishDude

Chicks dancing with each other is hot.
Men dancing with other men is way friggin gay.


18 posted on 10/25/2005 11:47:55 AM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: pissant

No way! Say it ain't so... you're a... a... GIRL?


19 posted on 10/25/2005 11:48:37 AM PDT by Mathews (Shot... Splash... Out!)
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To: N. Theknow
It's the same as liberals calling themselves progressive.

That's their code word for "socialist."

20 posted on 10/25/2005 11:48:37 AM PDT by darkangel82
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