Posted on 08/01/2005 12:37:53 PM PDT by TexKat
Shango has not danced with the lions, nor Arawaks,and does not keep their company
Eyes of god may look from afar with great acuity.
The resolution to find Mary lies with the Arawak Nation
Dirty Hand has bound the Arawak Nation with Babylonian Rope
The Lamb and the two Shivas whisper in the dark,
while the lions pace silently in the bush.
Dirty Hand is the link!
The lamb, the shivas, the elder whispering, exiting like theives in the night, clothed with invisible armor
If Dirty Hand falls, so does Babylon, but too, the Arawak Nation shall suffer.
Threadsurfers listen!
The lamb shall run anew in virgin fields, cropping sweet grass which should remain untouched.
The Lamb has sins, but the lions have sharper teeth.
A new key must be found to open unknown doors.
The first concern of the Arawak nation is wampum.
But unseen tides pull babylonian seas through Arawak Moats, bittering the waters.
DirtyHand and the Lions must see the light of Arawak Day, or forever walk in plentiful fields.
The dead shall eternally sleep if a clamour is not made.
Lamb and the Elder are stepping stones into the fetid pool of deception.
The rule of the Arawak King is the Final word.
DirtyHand has fouled the air for all nearby, but the Arawak Nation will claim Babylonian Authority prevents them from hunting Lions, and DirtyHand.
But the Arawak king controls destiny of all. The Arawak king has DirtyHands and DirtyFeet. If he is to reign anew, he cannot be soiled more.
The babylonians have ruled the Arawak Nation through deception and stealth, and their charges, the Arawaks, speak now with the same forked tongue, on behalf of their king.
The gift the cowboys ask of the king of the Arawak Nation is a mere trifle.
All ye who sing in the cyber-chorus lower your voices not!
It has been proven that the lamb, the shivas, and the elders are not the breach in Arawak Armour!
Let us hunt Lions, The King, and Dirty Hand.
The lions pace silently in the bush, while the king seeks pleasures with his concubines.
Threadsurfers! What is sought is not hidden.
The Lamb and the elder are not the keystone in the Arch of Corruption.
Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians for the behaviour of lowly minions.
If the head of the beast is in plain view it is folly to attack protected flanks.
Threadsurfers, DirtyHand is more vulnerable than the Arawak King and your lances should point in his direction.
He is the weak link, if he tumbles, all fall with him .. The lamb, the shivas, the elder
Shango looks from afar but speaks with truth. He does not converse with the Simian, or any other worldly sources, and attempts to bring direction to speculation
I must feed the messengers
The gods are talking
Bttt!
LOL!!
Okay yall work and figure this Shango and Shango riddle out.
DS,
I think that is interesting. The chosen name, Shango, is from a pagen religion. However, I'm having a tough time relating much of the posts to any Catholic link other than St Barbara. I see the reference Shango make to thunder and lightning, but seems that reference is more about why he/she wants to provide the information...justice.
That said, what do you see in the details of the posts that can also link a religious theme to this? I have taken a completely different tact. I see a lot of references to gambling - singing card, dicemen, played the hand, etc - and I think there is a definite link to the casinos and what happened to NH after she parted ways with JVDS. I think the maze is a circuit of casinos that provide for private parties (raves) for high-stakes players (lions). The players at these types of parties are catered to in every way.
I think the key casino in this circuit is the Allegro (follow the music) and the end was at the Wyndham. I'll explain the Wyndham later. Shango says she was not a virgin which I take to mean that she had gambled with a few of the people earlier in the week on the floor of a casino. It's possible that she had even been to the Allegro before. Nothing to support that...just a passing thought. Remember, the Allegro Hotel is closed for renovations, but the casino is still open. The casino is either now called or was called The Palace.
Somewhere I thought Shango had stated that the DJ from the boat should not have been released. I cannot find it.
The reason I think Shango has a religious angle is purely intuitive (yes, even blokes have intuition).
It is a somewhat wild guess, but there are pagan and religious references thoughout (or at least there might be). Of course, much of what has happened is secular...in the bowels of the island. And having read the Shango posts over and over again, it seems rather clear what Shango is saying. The people on this thread and on the Nat/Beth thread have said the same thing.
The one thing that is missing from Shango's posts is what we might do to bring the truth out...other than keep the pressure on.
In order to bring out the truth don't you have to look in the right places? Shango says the 3 amigos are scapegoats. I don't think they know where she is...dead or alive. Or, if they do know I think they were tasked with disposing of her, but they may not have been with her when she died. I think Joran and Deepak were headed to the Wyndham that night/early morning to try and get her back...alive. They may have been too late.
Or...it was decided that she would be taken off the island and sent somewhere else...(the sex slave theory).
There is a connection between the Allegro and the Wyndham. There is a guy who has held a high position at both places. He has a middle eastern name. The two security guards were former Allegro security guards. They hung out there. Lkie M. Furhman says, there's always a hint of truth in the lies. Joran didn't correctly describe the clothing of the HI security guards. He said they wore all black. The HI security guards wear white shirts. He was secribing security guards from a different Hotel/Casino. If by chance they were seen at the Allegro, those two security guards could still be suspects.
Is there a particular line in the Shango post that you are referring to regarding the DJ? I haven't been able to tie the DJ to the posts before. Help!
I think maybe the religious part may be limited only to the fact that the info provided comes from someone who has a sense of right and wrong. Evidently, that may be a little rare in the high stakes life on Aruba.
Frou,
You may be right. Or, it gives the author something to hide behind.
I study the medieval period and I like it...and I like William of Ockham's neat little theorum. But it really doesn't fit complex cases.
I prefer what Conan Doyle said through Holmes (to paraphrase)..."remove the impossible and what you are left with is the truth."
As a fanatical fan of mystery...we need to see the underside of the island to see the truth.
Even in riddle, shango has made the most sense.
[I prefer what Conan Doyle said through Holmes (to paraphrase)..."remove the impossible and what you are left with is the truth."]
Exactly! So what is the obvious that can be removed from Shango?
I still believe for no particular reason there may be a connection between the Wyndham and the Allegro. Mayge the dealers at Wyndham arranged the guestlist for the raves at Allegro? They have the same dealers? Something...
I can't quote it but I think it stays in the back of my mind. As opposed to being any kind of visionary thing, this has become a mental exercise in remembering as many snippets as one can, IMHO. I see nothing wrong with that. Plenty of detectives exercise the what-if perogative.
Let me cogitate. I will break it down as far as my three remaining brain cells permit.
Okay...I put it together this way.
Follow the music = Allegro. If there was a big-stakes game going on at the Allegro, not on the casino floor. They would be able to use the suites. No guests, it was closed for renovation. The players still needed a place to stay and they couldn't register at the Allegro. Plus there were not hotel services available. There is an individual high up who has worked at both places. Plus, it has been said that Joran was at the Wyndham the very next evening/early morning.
Identify the impossible? That's a tall order when there are so many smokescreens out there. How much could this be about the Arawaks resentment of Dutch intrusion? Angry, but afraid to retaliate? Are they? Could they have done this, and the necktie?
Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself. Maybe even the same owner?
I haven't tied it to ownership. I think the Allegro is owned by Occidental. Haven't established who owes the Wyndham yet.
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