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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: the Deejay
Well, the guards seemed to be quite honorable.

They did seem honorable. I think they were honorable and honest.

I think to be an honorable a person, one (like these men) would have to live at a great distance from the World of Aruba. They would have to be the little people (God bless 'em).

Ironic, isn't it, that the guilty class fingered the innocent class without blinking an eye?

781 posted on 07/05/2005 4:44:28 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: hershey

Naw...Geraldo didn't want to
risk landing in that jail of
theirs w/the concrete beds!

Plus, spending ages in jail
w/out having an attorney to
visit him. No telling how
long they'd keep Geraldo.

LOL!


782 posted on 07/05/2005 4:44:58 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: monkeywrench

Her friends saw her "getting into a cab".

Taxi license plates in Aruba begin with the letters 'TX'. Either her friends are mistaken or NH did not get into the Kalpoe's car. If they are mistaken, then their reliability as witnesses is very questionable.

783 posted on 07/05/2005 4:46:43 PM PDT by elli1
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To: the Deejay
And how many murderers molesters our juries & judges have set free?

With more evidence than we have seen so far, that's for sure!

784 posted on 07/05/2005 4:48:12 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: TexKat

That's what I was getting at. That there was one reporter commenting about damage to the tourist industry one night on Fox, using the 'h' word, and the next night another, local reporter said just the opposite. It looked like damage control. This was last week, and I don't know which night or on which show, so can only tell you it was on Fox. Also don't know if Fox transcripts are available after a week. You could search Greta or Hannity and Colmes to see if they have back pages, I'd guess. It was an evening show. I also noticed that all the Fox reporters took great pains to compliment the way they'd been treated, that the island was wonderful, safe, etc.. So they did their bit to keep the peace and make the locals happy.


785 posted on 07/05/2005 4:48:37 PM PDT by hershey
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To: GarySpFc

Teleruba broadband television ?

Where'd you find that?


786 posted on 07/05/2005 4:49:26 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat
Does anyone know what the father actually does for a living?

I understand that he is a "Judge in Training"...does that mean he is a regular lawyer?

Who might he represent on the island?

787 posted on 07/05/2005 4:50:17 PM PDT by demsux
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To: GarySpFc
Telearuba is without doubt the best broadband television connection I have ever seen. It great.

Is that what you have now?

788 posted on 07/05/2005 4:53:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dark Skies
There are some really bright people on this thread (excluding me, that is)...

I've enjoyed reading your posts here. A lot. :-)

789 posted on 07/05/2005 4:54:09 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ditter
Thank you for your kind suggestion, I would never have thought of that. Bless your heart! ;9)

I'm sorry, but some of us have been constantly following this event for the last 30+ days, and to ask where we saw every item is a little much at times.

I am fortunate to have an occupation where I can take time off whenever I become obsessed with something.
790 posted on 07/05/2005 4:54:21 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: hershey

I know hershey, that has been as wishy washy as everything else in this case.


791 posted on 07/05/2005 4:54:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Good post...this place (Aruba) is dirty and they don't seem to know it. Paradise lost.

And thx for your service to this Country. We owe you more than we can ever repay. You'll have to make do with our respect. And the honor you and I know you deserve. Thx.

792 posted on 07/05/2005 4:55:52 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: GarySpFc

found it...but I don't speak their language.


793 posted on 07/05/2005 4:56:41 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Nita Nupress

Thx Nita...ditto!


794 posted on 07/05/2005 4:56:53 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: txrangerette
The initial police contact came when Natalee's family went looking for Joran at this house. They called the police who sent someone along with them, but it was the family that took the lead. The dad told them Joran was not home, that he was at a Casino. So they drove to this Casino and Joran was not there. They called the dad and said he's not here. The dad said, of course not, he came home while you were on your way there.

Right. Do you think this was to buy time or maybe hide or move body? Just curious.

So they rushed back, and spent over an hour I think trying to get answers about Natalee. The dad told Joran not to talk. I believe at some point the K. brothers were contacted and they came over and were there. I believe they too were counseled not to talk, by Joran's dad. (So Joran was at a Casino at 3 a.m. on a school night, according to his own father, who seemed cool with it.)

This is the area I'd like a little more information on. Who contacted the Kalpoe brothers. Were they home? Did they get to the Sloots home and spend time alone with them prior to the ruturn of the H/T group?

795 posted on 07/05/2005 5:01:24 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: GarySpFc

They just mentioned on Greta that there are witnesses. It might even be the two brothers.

I missed this, any more infor on witnesses?


796 posted on 07/05/2005 5:02:11 PM PDT by cccellar
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To: spectre

The case is already screwed up and going south by the minute. jmo


797 posted on 07/05/2005 5:03:00 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: Rippersnapper

The comments coming from that radio station were not about Geraldo!

Wasn't a radio station. What are you talking about? I haven't heard this story.

What I've just been reading is that a radio station is playing back BOR comments from a 'chaperone' show. Does anyone have a link to a transcript from that show?

798 posted on 07/05/2005 5:03:34 PM PDT by elli1
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To: onyx
I'd like to strap PVDS and JVDS to a polygraph machine. Of course, that won't happen. BTW, has the guy with the voice stress machine (for lack of the official term) come to any new conclusions?

Sounds good to me, strap them to a polygraph on one end, to record their stress. And like cowboys are want to do,and hit them in the other end with a cattle prod to induce stress...bet they start talking...

799 posted on 07/05/2005 5:03:47 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: elli1
They saw her get into what they thought was a cab. Turned out to be kalpoos taxi-look alike car. Dark tinted. He apparently was obsessed with keeping it clean.

"Something bad happened".

800 posted on 07/05/2005 5:05:58 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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