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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: grizzfan

Thanks for the reminder!! We need it from time to time. If I couldn't get my FREEP fix everyday I don't know WHAT I would do.


521 posted on 07/05/2005 1:05:11 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: Palladin

Methinks he's a wannabe
everything. Playboy is
at the top of his list. IMO.


522 posted on 07/05/2005 1:05:31 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat
If I was going to do that I would have been doing it all along. Not wait until the assumed perps were released.

Exactly. Time is of the essence and that doesn't only apply to the authorities.

If the FBI have anything, and I'm not sure but I think only one is left there, I doubt they are getting much of anything at all.

523 posted on 07/05/2005 1:06:47 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: the Deejay
We should've stayed in the Smoky Backroom.

No shite!

524 posted on 07/05/2005 1:07:16 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: monkeywrench

Yep...that's what it is alright. This is going to get a lot uglier before it gets better. I feel so bad for the family. No matter what they do now those people down there are not going to try to resolve this crime.


525 posted on 07/05/2005 1:07:20 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: theophilusscribe
You're an angel! Thanks!

Aaaaaah thank you.

526 posted on 07/05/2005 1:08:13 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Rippersnapper

U R right. Only one agent is
there.


527 posted on 07/05/2005 1:08:24 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: elli1

The comments coming from that radio station were not about Geraldo!


528 posted on 07/05/2005 1:08:32 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: Dark Skies
There are some really bright people on this thread (excluding me, that is)...

Cher...if you were any brighter, you would have to sign up as "Light Skies!"

I've been wondering about the FBI...it seems, at least on the surface, that they have not gotten anywhere in Aruba. Do you think they are still active on the case here in the U.S, as in interviewing others from the trip, collating info from Beth & the team from Texas, using undercover in Aruba, etc?
529 posted on 07/05/2005 1:08:37 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: demkicker

LOL, don't look at me!!


530 posted on 07/05/2005 1:10:46 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Thanks. I remember someone saying that people from the trip were clustered in groups and that if someone wasn't with one group, people just figured they were with another...something like that.


531 posted on 07/05/2005 1:11:31 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: demkicker; TexKat; Rippersnapper; All
HEADS UP!

Anchor chick on FOX says Greta coming up with a preview from Aruba.

532 posted on 07/05/2005 1:11:47 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

Thanks for the post from SM. I'm wondering who owns the Top 95 radio station. Perhaps one of PVDS's friends? Like most radio stations, they probably have screeners, who are deciding which callers get through.

The radio station could very well be doing propaganda for PVDS, to mis-lead the public on how the average Aruban feels about the Twittys.


533 posted on 07/05/2005 1:12:22 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: the Deejay

Divers from Tennessee are going down today to help in the search:

http://www.nbc13.com/news/4684185/detail.html


534 posted on 07/05/2005 1:13:21 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: eddie65

"Gee, if the rape of tourists was so rampant on Aruba, you'd think the public would have heard of it before now. I know many people who've gone to Aruba, but none of them ever mentioned being raped. Or even that people were getting raped."


I have posted these before....perhaps you missed them. They're from people who seem to know a bit more about Aruba than you and I. I have no reason to doubt them. I do believe we have something to learn here, as with all the sites and postings that so many have made on FR. Thanks again to all!

Posted on scaredmonkeys:

In case you think Aruba is a safe little island, it is well known for international drug trafficking and has been called "a smugglers paradise." Aruba is controlled by the Cuntrera Sicilian Mafia and is a major player is drugs. Aruban government officials are closed tied (bought off) by the mafia: former Premier (Henny Eman) and Minister of Justice (Edgar Vos) were so blatant that the people tried to get them out of office but couldn't. Why do drug dealers operate around all the hotels and night clubs with impunity? Because the police are told to leave them alone. Why can't Natalee Holloway be found? Because the government will have to expose the mafia, & heads will fall....literally. This is well documented from years and years of Aruba government corruption.

Another post on scaredmonkeys:

Did hear that if you paid a certain amount to the cops that they would give you permission to have raves. This came from a “posters” in riehlworld. He also said that if you are alone at night on the beach with a love interest, that the police would get their turn at the girl plus get your money and jewlery in order to “look the other way”.


535 posted on 07/05/2005 1:13:37 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: the Deejay; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
Mother Worried Brothers Will Flee Aruba

Jul 5, 10:40 AM (ET)

By PETER PRENGAMAN

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - The mother of an Alabama teenager who disappeared more than a month ago on Tuesday expressed concern that two Surinamese brothers released from custody might try to flee the country and she asked other countries not to help them.

A judge ordered the release of Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, on Monday, saying there was not sufficient evidence to continue holding them in Natalee Holloway's disappearance.

In an emotional news conference, Holloway's mother said she believes they should still be in jail and expressed concern they might try to flee the island.

"I'm asking all nations not to offer them a safe haven," Beth Holloway Twitty said. "These criminals are now free to walk among the tourists of Aruba ... while I have not seen my beautiful daughter in 36 days."

"My greatest fear is that they will leave Aruba," she said before breaking down in tears.

536 posted on 07/05/2005 1:15:56 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: ga medic

Agree, at 18 personal responsibility comes into play.


537 posted on 07/05/2005 1:16:23 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: truthluva
The Dutch F-16 flights, what a rotten joke.

I heard a guy on Fox laughing about how this will not prove anything & I knew that when I first heard the Dutch were going to do this.

It's been way too long to even try that plan.

Besides, why did it take an F-16 almost a week to get to Aruba from Holland?

The Dutch are doing this to appease the Senator Shelby.

538 posted on 07/05/2005 1:18:14 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Palladin

I didn't know that about gangs. I hope I'm not the only one on FR.

I thought he wore blue so often because he might have gotten the impression he doesn't look good in earthtones. ;) Or that it was his way of signaling to someone involved in the cover-up, like Clinton wearing Monica's tie.


539 posted on 07/05/2005 1:19:15 PM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless our Military)
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To: the Deejay
The Dutch F-16 flights, what a rotten joke.

And now a tropical storm is expected.

540 posted on 07/05/2005 1:20:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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