Posted on 04/24/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by CHARLITE
Southern heritage buffs vow to use the Virginia gubernatorial election as a platform for designating April as Confederate History and Heritage Month.
The four candidates have differing views on the Confederacy, an issue that has been debated for years in the commonwealth.
"We're not just a few people making a lot of noise," said Brag Bowling, a spokesman for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, the oldest hereditary organization for male descendents of Confederate soldiers. "This is not a racial thing; it is good for Virginia. We're going to keep pushing this until we get it."
Each candidate recently shared his thoughts on what Mr. Bowling called a "litmus test for all politicians." Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine would not support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Former state Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore would support something that recognizes everyone who lived during the Civil War.
Sen. H. Russell Potts Jr. and Warrenton Mayor George B. Fitch would support a Confederate History and Heritage Month. Many past Virginia governors honored the Civil War or the Confederacy.
In 1990, former Gov. L. Douglas Wilder, the nation's first black governor, a Democrat and a grandson of slaves, issued a proclamation praising both sides of the war and remembering "those who sacrificed in this great struggle."
Former Govs. George Allen and James S. Gilmore III, both Republicans, issued Confederate History Month proclamations. In 2000, Mr. Gilmore replaced that proclamation with one commemorating both sides of the Civil War -- a move that enraged the Sons of Confederate Veterans.
Gov. Mark Warner, a Democrat, has refused to issue a gubernatorial decree on either side of the Civil War.
Mr. Kaine, another Democrat, would decline to issue a Confederate History and Heritage Month proclamation if he is elected governor, said his campaign spokeswoman, Delacey Skinner.
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Read the writings of Calhoun, the founder of the States rights view.
The Southerners were rejecting the view of the Declaration of independence.
Below is from the Cornerstone Speech by Andrew Stephens, vice president of the Confederacy.
But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew." (emphasis mine) Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition. [Applause.] This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/corner.html
Others called the Declaration, a self-evident lie .
It has been the goal of the South since the Civil War, to hide what they really believed and were really fighting for.
28 Feb 1861 - President Jefferson Davis VETOED a bill that attempted to allow importation of slaves.
Allow me briefly to allude to some of these improvements. The question of building up class interests, or fostering one branch of industry to the prejudice of another under the exercise of the revenue power, which gave us so much trouble under the old constitution, is put at rest forever under the new. We allow the imposition of no duty with a view of giving advantage to one class of persons, in any trade or business, over those of another. All, under our system, stand upon the same broad principles of perfect equality. Honest labor and enterprise are left free and unrestricted in whatever pursuit they may be engaged. This old thorn of the tariff, which was the cause of so much irritation in the old body politic, is removed forever from the new.The Southerners were rejecting the view of the Declaration of independence.Again, the subject of internal improvements, under the power of Congress to regulate commerce, is put at rest under our system. The power, claimed by construction under the old constitution, was at least a doubtful one; it rested solely upon construction. We of the South, generally apart from considerations of constitutional principles, opposed its exercise upon grounds of its inexpediency and injustice. Notwithstanding this opposition, millions of money, from the common treasury had been drawn for such purposes. Our opposition sprang from no hostility to commerce, or to all necessary aids for facilitating it. With us it was simply a question upon whom the burden should fall. In Georgia, for instance, we have done as much for the cause of internal improvements as any other portion of the country, according to population and means. We have stretched out lines of railroads from the seaboard to the mountains; dug down the hills, and filled up the valleys at a cost of not less than $25,000,000. All this was done to open an outlet for our products of the interior, and those to the west of us, to reach the marts of the world. No State was in greater need of such facilities than Georgia, but we did not ask that these works should be made by appropriations out of the common treasury. The cost of the grading, the superstructure, and the equipment of our roads was borne by those who had entered into the enterprise. ...
Nonsense. They avidly supported and pursed the right to self-government:
Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, -- That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
the roll number he claims to have has NEVER been issued to ANYONE, ever.
he is Cherokee in the same way i'm a Chinese.
free dixie,sw
as usual, you are either IGNORANT or LYING. which is it?????
free dixie,sw
ROTF!!!!! Lincoln and the nothern congress put forth a new amendement that would guarantee slavery forever, so obviously if that was all the Confderacy was really fighting for, the had no reason to leave. Slavery was LEGAL while they were in the Union, and Lincoln advocating making slavery PERMANENT.
as my grandfather used to say: you can tell a damnyankee is LYING if his mouth opens.
free dxiie,sw
as my grandfather used to say: you can tell a damnyankee is LYING if his mouth opens.
free dxiie,sw
as my grandfather used to say: you can tell a damnyankee is LYING if his mouth opens.
free dxiie,sw
Wow!
Think that protecting the economic value of the slaves they already had anything to do with that?
Your attempts at trying to make the war about other issues is typical Southern mythology.
The South did not support self-government for the Negro, because they did not believe in the key principle of the Declaration that makes self-government a right, the fact that God has given all men the right to life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
What Lincoln advocated was to protect slavery where it already existed to avoid a war.
That was not enough for the South, which wanted to the right to expand slavery.
What Lincoln was suggesting was already legal and was only stating that he would uphold the Constitution,which meant that slavery where it existed would not be assaulted.
He would not allow it to expand and that was the platform of the Republican Party, to stop the expansion of slavery, not end it.
The lies of the Southern apologists never cease.
And if your grandfather was passing on to you these Soutern myths, he was lying through his teeth.
My definition of a shack includes houses that are so old and run down they look like a good fart will blow them down. Drive Hwy 74 from Charlotte to Robbinsville and you will see plenty. Go down 218 out of Mint Hill and after you pass the golf course keep an eye on the right. You will soon pass a classic. Any body who feels the need to feel insulted is free to do so, but it won't change the truth of what I have written.
"This old distortion?"
"Facts" are now distortions? Sorry my friend, but you'll have to provide evidence to support your claim. Did you honestly forget Delaware, and Kentucky? I've only been hraping on their likes for half this thread.
"As for secession itself, the states cannot vote to secede themselves out of the union. "
They sure did anyway. "Cannot" is a very strong word.
And you know what? The North took it at the time that the South voted to secede.
Sources?
BALONEY!
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