[furball4paws]

ping

[Ichneumon]

Nice, thanks for posting it.

[Mamzelle]

Ping Gene Wilder, too...

[furball4paws]

Some definitions:

self-incompatible - the flowers cannot fertilize themselves.

sib-matings - crosses between plants of the same generation.

back crossing - crosses between a plant and its parent or even further back.

hybrid - an individual derived from crossing two separate (but usually related) species. They are typically, but not always, sterile.

[dighton]

A nice, quiet thread about flowers. What could possibly go wrong?

[Sola Veritas]

"Nice, neat, repeatable and meets all scientific criteria for a definitive experiment."

Plant hybridization hardly proves evolution - it is unique to plant "design". Stop wasting bandwidth with this nonsense. This has been debated to death without resolution. All it does is to start endless fights that don't accomplish anything.

[PatrickHenry]

Before the creationoids say it, I'll go first: "This isn't evidence of evolution. There is no evidence for evolution. This is proof of Intelligent Design!"

[RadioAstronomer]

Nice post. Thank you.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax are evolutionary ancestors of H. anomalus, H. deserticola and H. paradoxus.

Which means absolutely nothing if H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax have always been H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax and have always produced H. anomalus, H. deserticola and H. paradoxus hybrids since God created them.

[MonroeDNA]

10 seconds to a bah-bull quote.

[Varda]

Let me be the first to say, Mendel told you so. Speciation by hybridization , he was right about that too.

"We meet with an essential difference in those hybrids which remain constant in their progeny and propagate themselves as truly as the pure species...For the history of the evolution of plants this circumstance is of special importance, since constant hybrids acquire the status of new species." http://www.mendelweb.org/Mendel.html

[b_sharp]

Good stuff. Thanks for posting it.

[FourtySeven]

Bumpity!

[FourtySeven]

You know, looking over this article for my own reference (possilbe, in the future) of it, I don't see the exact reference. Where was it published, when, etc? Or am I missing something?

Thanks,

[Ichneumon]

While googling for images to use in a previous post, I serendipitously ran across this gem:

It's from this collection of science-related cartoons.

A couple of other samples from the same source:

As usual, all hail ImageShack, the greatest image hosting service *ever* -- free, fast, reliable.

And one for the physics nerds:

[Southack]

"However, the few fertile hybrids, when subjected to sib-matings and back crossing regimes yield a new species that is fully fertile and cannot cross with either of the parental species."

Cross-breeding can not explain the origin of the first two species, making it an intellectual dead-end for Evolutionists, Creationists, and Intelligent Designers.