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1 posted on 02/15/2005 7:12:01 AM PST by furball4paws
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


2 posted on 02/15/2005 7:12:38 AM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: furball4paws

Nice, thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 7:13:23 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws

Ping Gene Wilder, too...


4 posted on 02/15/2005 7:14:00 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: furball4paws

Some definitions:

self-incompatible - the flowers cannot fertilize themselves.

sib-matings - crosses between plants of the same generation.

back crossing - crosses between a plant and its parent or even further back.

hybrid - an individual derived from crossing two separate (but usually related) species. They are typically, but not always, sterile.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 7:16:39 AM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: general_re; aculeus

A nice, quiet thread about flowers. What could possibly go wrong?


6 posted on 02/15/2005 7:17:27 AM PST by dighton
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To: furball4paws

"Nice, neat, repeatable and meets all scientific criteria for a definitive experiment."

Plant hybridization hardly proves evolution - it is unique to plant "design". Stop wasting bandwidth with this nonsense. This has been debated to death without resolution. All it does is to start endless fights that don't accomplish anything.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 7:22:55 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: furball4paws
Before the creationoids say it, I'll go first: "This isn't evidence of evolution. There is no evidence for evolution. This is proof of Intelligent Design!"
11 posted on 02/15/2005 7:23:17 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: furball4paws

Nice post. Thank you.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 7:28:25 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: furball4paws
H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax are evolutionary ancestors of H. anomalus, H. deserticola and H. paradoxus.

Which means absolutely nothing if H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax have always been H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax and have always produced H. anomalus, H. deserticola and H. paradoxus hybrids since God created them.
25 posted on 02/15/2005 7:37:41 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: furball4paws

10 seconds to a bah-bull quote.


27 posted on 02/15/2005 7:38:57 AM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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To: furball4paws
Let me be the first to say, Mendel told you so. Speciation by hybridization , he was right about that too.

"We meet with an essential difference in those hybrids which remain constant in their progeny and propagate themselves as truly as the pure species...For the history of the evolution of plants this circumstance is of special importance, since constant hybrids acquire the status of new species." http://www.mendelweb.org/Mendel.html
34 posted on 02/15/2005 7:49:53 AM PST by Varda
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To: furball4paws

Good stuff. Thanks for posting it.


67 posted on 02/15/2005 10:31:18 AM PST by b_sharp (Atheist does not mean liberal and Scientist does not mean communist.)
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To: furball4paws

Bumpity!


77 posted on 02/15/2005 11:08:03 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: furball4paws

You know, looking over this article for my own reference (possilbe, in the future) of it, I don't see the exact reference. Where was it published, when, etc? Or am I missing something?

Thanks,


78 posted on 02/15/2005 11:10:25 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: furball4paws; Physicist; general_re; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro; epluribus_2; RadioAstronomer; ...
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115 posted on 02/15/2005 4:41:52 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws
"However, the few fertile hybrids, when subjected to sib-matings and back crossing regimes yield a new species that is fully fertile and cannot cross with either of the parental species."

Cross-breeding can not explain the origin of the first two species, making it an intellectual dead-end for Evolutionists, Creationists, and Intelligent Designers.

158 posted on 05/25/2005 10:38:39 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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