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Laboratory Speciation in Helianthus Evolves a Native Species
furball4paws

Posted on 02/15/2005 7:12:00 AM PST by furball4paws

Laboratory Speciation in Helianthus Evolves a Native Species

DNA examination of five species of Helianthus (H. annuus, H. petiolarus fallax, H. anomalus, H. paradoxus, and H. deserticola) suggested that H. annuus and H. petiolarus fallax are the evolutionary parents of the other three species (Rieseberg 1993, 1995, 1993). All five species are self-incompatible and fertile. Typically, H. annuus (the ancestor of the commercial sunflower) and H. petiolarus fallax form hybrids that are almost fully sterile. However, the few fertile hybrids, when subjected to sib-matings and back crossing regimes yield a new species that is fully fertile and cannot cross with either of the parental species. This new species is virtually identical to H. anomalus. The produced species is genetically isolated from the parents by chromosomal barriers. "Under laboratory conditions these changes are repeatable across independent experiments" (Niklas, p.64). The laboratory derived H. anomalus readily crosses with the native H. anomalus. Results indicate that H. deserticola and H. paradoxus may also have arisen via hybridization of H. annuus and H. petiolarus fallax. These two species have different synthetic capabilities from the parents and live in sandier and drier soils. Hybrid speciation may be common in plants where hybrids often form (see Gilia sp., Grant, 1966, Stebbins, 1959, Arnold, 1995), but is presumed rare in animals where hybrids are less common (however, see the minnow Gila seminuda, Bellini, 1994). Experiments to confirm the evolutionary parents of H. deserticola and H. paradoxus have not been performed. 1. Based on nuclear and chloroplast DNA analysis results, the Theory of Evolution predicts that H. annuus and H. pertiolarus fallax are evolutionary ancestors of H. anomalus, H. deserticola and H. paradoxus. 2. Hybrids of H. annuus and H. petiolarus fallax subjected to different regimes (at least 3) of back crossing and sib-matings, all converged into a new plant species with "nearly identical gene combinations" (Rieseberg) as the native species H. anomalus. This confirms the natural evolutionary parents of H. anomalus as predicted.

References 1. Arnold, J and S.A. Hodges. 1995. Are Natural Hybrids Fit or Unfit Relative to Their Parents? Trends Ecol. Evol. 10:67-71. 2. Bullini, L. 1994. Origin and Evolution of Animals by Hybrid Animal Species. Trends Ecol. Evol. 9:422-6. 3. Futuyma, D.J. 1998. Evolutionary Biology. 3rd. Edition, Sinauer Associates Inc., Sunderland, MA. 4. Grant, V. 1966. The Origin of a New Species of Gilia in a Hybridization Experiment. Genetics 54:1189-99. 5. Niklas, K.J. 1997. The Evolutionary Biology of Plants. Univ. Chicago Press, Chicago, IL. 6. Rieseberg, L.H. 1995. The Role of Hybridization in Evolution: Old Wine in New Skins. Amer. J. Bot. 82:944-53. 7. Rieseberg, L.H., and N.C. Ellstrand. 1993. What Can Molecular and Morphological Markers Tell Us About Plant Hybridization? Crit. Rev. Plant Sci. 12:213-41. 8. Rieseberg, L.H., B. Sinervo, C.R. Linden, M. Ungerer and D.M. Arias. 1996. Role of Gene Interactions in Hybrid Speciation: Evidence from Ancient and Experimental Hybrids. Science 272:741-44.A

Nice, neat, repeatable and meets all scientific criteria for a definitive experiment.


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KEYWORDS: crevo; crevolist; darwin; evolution; justahybrid; plantevolution; speciation; stillasunflower
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1 posted on 02/15/2005 7:12:01 AM PST by furball4paws
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


2 posted on 02/15/2005 7:12:38 AM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: furball4paws

Nice, thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 02/15/2005 7:13:23 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: furball4paws

Ping Gene Wilder, too...


4 posted on 02/15/2005 7:14:00 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: furball4paws

Some definitions:

self-incompatible - the flowers cannot fertilize themselves.

sib-matings - crosses between plants of the same generation.

back crossing - crosses between a plant and its parent or even further back.

hybrid - an individual derived from crossing two separate (but usually related) species. They are typically, but not always, sterile.


5 posted on 02/15/2005 7:16:39 AM PST by furball4paws ("These are Microbes."... "You have crobes?" BC)
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To: general_re; aculeus

A nice, quiet thread about flowers. What could possibly go wrong?


6 posted on 02/15/2005 7:17:27 AM PST by dighton
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 230 names. See list's description at my homepage. FReepmail to be added/dropped.

7 posted on 02/15/2005 7:18:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Ichneumon

I douby that too many creationoids will come out for this - but you never know. They certainly won't be able to say it can't be repeated or their usual mush. It's a nice, tight piece of work.

Observations - theory - predictions - experimental test - BOINK.

Here's mud in your eye!


8 posted on 02/15/2005 7:20:46 AM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash - I think)
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To: dighton; aculeus

9 posted on 02/15/2005 7:21:02 AM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: furball4paws

"Nice, neat, repeatable and meets all scientific criteria for a definitive experiment."

Plant hybridization hardly proves evolution - it is unique to plant "design". Stop wasting bandwidth with this nonsense. This has been debated to death without resolution. All it does is to start endless fights that don't accomplish anything.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 7:22:55 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: furball4paws
Before the creationoids say it, I'll go first: "This isn't evidence of evolution. There is no evidence for evolution. This is proof of Intelligent Design!"
11 posted on 02/15/2005 7:23:17 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
No good. Everyone knows sunflowers are religious, if Pagan.

OK, that was a particularly obscure reference.

"As the sunflower turns to her God when he sets
The same look that she turned when he rose."

-- Believe Me if All Those Endearing Young Charms

12 posted on 02/15/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: furball4paws
creationoids I have quite a nice collection of fossilized creationoids, both disarticulated stem segments, a beautifully preserved calx and a few complete specimens. Must have been plentiful in the shallow precambrian seas over michigan millions of years ago...
13 posted on 02/15/2005 7:25:36 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Sola Veritas

You wan to try and read the thread. A new species was obtained from the crossing of two separate species. I am sorry that is the definition of evolution.


14 posted on 02/15/2005 7:27:11 AM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash - I think)
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To: furball4paws

Nice post. Thank you.


15 posted on 02/15/2005 7:28:25 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: VadeRetro

One more creationoid remark that I shall anticipate: "Get back to me when you can show a fish giving birth to a bullfrog."


16 posted on 02/15/2005 7:28:25 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: epluribus_2

So - are they proof of Evolution, or Abiogenesis?


17 posted on 02/15/2005 7:29:06 AM PST by furball4paws (It's not the cough that carried him off - it's the coffin they carried him off in (O. Nash - I think)
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To: PatrickHenry
Before the creationoids say it, I'll go first: "This isn't evidence of evolution. There is no evidence for evolution. This is proof of Intelligent Design!"

Actually, as someone who believes evolution and intelligent design are compatible and, most likely, both contributed to the development of life on Earth.... Yes. Actually, it's not proof. It is intelligent design, where we happen to know who the designer is.

Now the question is how much intelligent design has contributed over the aeons.

18 posted on 02/15/2005 7:32:13 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: furball4paws

By the way, clicking on the keyword "speciation" just below the article gives a few other threads that are somewhat relevant. We should remember to use that keyword when it's relevant.


19 posted on 02/15/2005 7:32:29 AM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
One more creationoid remark that I shall anticipate: "Get back to me when you can show a fish giving birth to a bullfrog."

But even bullfrogs don't come out looking like bullfrogs. They look like -- fish. At least for a time.

20 posted on 02/15/2005 7:32:47 AM PST by VadeRetro
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