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Posted on 12/31/2004 2:21:30 PM PST by Caipirabob
What's wrong about this photo? Or if you're a true-born Southerner, what's right?
While scanning through some of the up and coming movies in 2005, I ran across this intriguing title; "CSA: Confederate States of America (2005)". It's an "alternate universe" take on what would the country be like had the South won the civil war.
Stars with bars:
Suffice to say anything from Hollywood on this topic is sure to to bring about all sorts of controversial ideas and discussions. I was surprised that they are approaching such subject matter, and I'm more than a little interested.
Some things are better left dead in the past:
For myself, I was more than pleased with the homage paid to General "Stonewall" Jackson in Turner's "Gods and Generals". Like him, I should have like to believe that the South would have been compelled to end slavery out of Christian dignity rather than continue to enslave their brothers of the freedom that belong equally to all men. Obviously it didn't happen that way.
Would I fight for a South that believed in Slavery today? I have to ask first, would I know any better back then? I don't know. I honestly don't know. My pride for my South and my heritage would have most likely doomed me as it did so many others. I won't skirt the issue, in all likelyhood, slavery may have been an afterthought. Had they been the staple of what I considered property, I possibly would have already been past the point of moral struggle on the point and preparing to kill Northern invaders.
Compelling story or KKK wet dream?:
So what do I feel about this? The photo above nearly brings me to tears, as I highly respect Abraham Lincoln. I don't care if they kick me out of the South. Imagine if GW was in prayer over what to do about a seperatist leftist California. That's how I imagine Lincoln. A great man. I wonder sometimes what my family would have been like today. How many more of us would there be? Would we have held onto the property and prosperity that sustained them before the war? Would I have double the amount of family in the area? How many would I have had to cook for last week for Christmas? Would I have needed to make more "Pate De Fois Gras"?
Well, dunno about that either. Depending on what the previous for this movie are like, I may or may not see it. If they portray it as the United Confederacy of the KKK I won't be attending.
This generation of our clan speaks some 5 languages in addition to English, those being of recent immigrants to this nation. All of them are good Americans. I believe the south would have succombed to the same forces that affected the North. Immigration, war, economics and other huma forces that have changed the map of the world since history began.
Whatever. At least in this alternate universe, it's safe for me to believe that we would have grown to be the benevolent and humane South that I know it is in my heart. I can believe that slavery would have died shortly before or after that lost victory. I can believe that Southern gentlemen would have served the world as the model for behavior. In my alternate universe, it's ok that Spock has a beard. It's my alternate universe after all, it can be what I want.
At any rate, I lived up North for many years. Wonderful people and difficult people. I will always sing their praises as a land full of beautiful Italian girls, maple syrup and Birch beer. My uncle ribbed us once before we left on how we were going up North to live "with all the Yankees". Afterwards I always refered to him as royalty. He is, really. He's "King of the Rednecks". I suppose I'm his court jester.
So what do you think of this movie?
In 1775. Not in 1861.
So you would be Mr. "All the Laws I Feel Like Obeying"?
No, I would be Mr. "The South Was Within Its Rights to Leave the Union and Who Are YOU?"
That's how you shape Jack Rakove's "usable history".
He's 'protected'. Jeremy.
Au contrair, you are forgetting the War of Southern Rebellion, 1861 to 1865.
No, I would be Mr. "The South Was Within Its Rights to Leave the Union and Who Are YOU?"
I would be Mr. Non-Sequitur, the one, the only. Accept no substitutes. And the south was not within it's rights to rebel.
The War Between the States was not a rebellion. There was no rebellion -- except in West Virginia, which threw off the lawful authority of the State of Virginia and her government, and sought protection from a military tyrant.
And the south was not within it's rights to rebel.
A fair statement, as far as it goes. Had they rebelled, they almost certainly would not have been in the right. However, there was no rebellion.
Idolized by Lincolites. Jonathan.
Any spare anesthesia?
Considering that the souther acts of secession were illegal then it certainly was a rebellion.
A fair statement, as far as it goes. Had they rebelled, they almost certainly would not have been in the right. However, there was no rebellion.
But there was.
Actually it was LG and another neo-condeferate cultist who had several unanswered posts prior to that thread getting pulled.
Given his endless whining about "slurs", "personal attacks", and the loss of his "manservant" Noclue Chan, coupled with his stated proclivity to file abuse reports when his "Lost Cause" hallucinations are ridiculed, I'd say he or one of the other hayseeds are the likely culprits.
That he is now blaming you is just part of the pattern.
No slurs there, eh? Do we need to sell our homes and move into a trailer? Does my brother-in-law need to sell his Ferarri and Lamborghinis (plural)? Do I need to give away the 240Z he gave me for Christmas? Why this proclivity to smear Southerners as poor white-trailer trash?
When you sign off every post with "Free Dixie," and repeatedly trumpet the fact that you would happily disavow your United States citizenship for citizenship in some future southern confederacy to be named later, I think that "neo-confederate" is a pretty dead-on term for you.
But you're not a neo-confederate?
i've always complimented N-S for education/brains. too bad he's NOT on our side.
free dixie,sw
opinions are like bellybuttons, as everyone has one. they mostly stink,too.
free dixie,sw
The only substitution of nonsense for a real answer occurred when Non-Sequitur indulged in his usual tu quoquery. I have simply pointed that fact out to the rest of the thread.
You gotta give the guy one thing. Just as he indicates, he IS a walking, talking personification of his chosen posting handle!
Garbage_truck, who btw was NOT posting on the thread when it got pulled, seems strangely unaware that NC is no longer posting here. Wonder why that is?
so tell me again all about how TOLERENT of Jews the damnyankees are.
free dixie,sw
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