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Morford: America Loves Kinky Sex
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Wednesday, December 1, 2004 | Mark Morford

Posted on 12/01/2004 6:07:56 AM PST by presidio9

Here's my suggestion: let them have it. Just do it. Let the sexually bitter and morally frantic conservative groups now dictating governmental policy and FCC agendas and paranoid media attitudes have their time, their brief cultural burp, their little speed bump on the great and beckoning highway that will still lead us all, inexorably, irreversibly, though often agonizingly, toward grinning open-thighed progress.

Because here's the fabulous thing: no matter what these faux-Christian groups do, no matter how hard they oppress and protest and clamp down, this is a road that leads, despite all dour headlines and sour prognostications otherwise, toward spiritual illumination, toward awareness, toward sexual openness and same-sex marriage and revelatory sodomy and free vibrators for teenage girls and lesbians kissing open mouthed in the streets. In Kentucky. In the daytime. On Sunday.

It's true. All this and more, is gonna happen. This is my belief. Superlative homemade pornography and fetish dungeons and happy dildo supermarkets and the utter brilliance of the Suicide Girls and regular people having juicy consensual reasonably kinky respectful sex like it's no big deal, and it's all a matter of time, isn't it, before it will all erupt back to the surface of the culture and spread like hot karmic butter across the land. Maybe? You think?

And when that time comes, we shall look back on Janet Jackson's Nipplegate and the Monday Night Football backlash and the shrill outcry from various conservative and religious groups against the superlative movie "Kinsey" in the same way people look back on old bunions or leg warmers and laugh and point and shake their heads and sigh.

Because right now, we seem to be stuck. Mired. Hateful and narrow and sexually small and the country is right this minute being led, morally speaking,

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To: af_vet_rr

It's all part of the same thing.

Many parents just don't want to take the time, effort, trouble to discipline and teach their children - to show them real love. Real love means raising them properly. If a parent's idea of real life means instant gratification, he or she won't want to take time out from their own personal enjoyment to deal with kids the way they need.


141 posted on 12/01/2004 6:57:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes? Do they exist? If so, what are they and where did they come from?)
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To: grey_whiskers

"Robert Bork was wrong. 'Slouching' towards Gomorrah?
Sprinting towards Sodom is more like it."

My thoughts exactly.


142 posted on 12/01/2004 6:59:10 PM PST by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I was gonna say Elizabeth Taylor (will husband no. 8 please step up...).


143 posted on 12/01/2004 6:59:24 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: little jeremiah

As someone trying to raise two kids in this culture, it ain't easy.

I was just in the local Target this evening. On the shelf, there was a "Sims" videogame. The cover showed adults kissing and my kids were drawn to that like moths to a flame.

I hate this culture.


144 posted on 12/01/2004 7:01:34 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: presidio9

What night do they give away the FannyPacks at the Ballpark?


145 posted on 12/01/2004 7:08:52 PM PST by 82Marine89 (Illegal used to mean 'against the law'. Now its a voting block.)
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To: sauropod

I'm on the same page.


146 posted on 12/01/2004 7:14:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes? Do they exist? If so, what are they and where did they come from?)
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To: sauropod
"I hate this culture."

Agreed.

147 posted on 12/01/2004 8:56:53 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: little jeremiah

Keep in mind that the average life expectancy of a homosexual man is 42 years and they have a 99% mortality rate by age 60 so you may not have long to wait in either case.


148 posted on 12/02/2004 5:28:42 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

It's not as though I wish ill on him. He's doing a good job of condemning himself already.

He actually sounds like a ghost talking. I predict he's not long for this world.


149 posted on 12/02/2004 6:28:38 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: sauropod

"It's when it is on the tube in the so-called "family hour" or stuck in your face in a hundred inappropriate ways that is the problem."

I don't think anyone here is trying to argue for more Janet Jackson style exhibitionism. Or trying to say porn spam is a good thing.


150 posted on 12/02/2004 6:46:04 AM PST by pnome
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To: pnome

Gah! Forget I said anything, I just re-read the article.


151 posted on 12/02/2004 6:48:02 AM PST by pnome
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To: little jeremiah
Many parents just don't want to take the time, effort, trouble to discipline and teach their children - to show them real love. Real love means raising them properly. If a parent's idea of real life means instant gratification, he or she won't want to take time out from their own personal enjoyment to deal with kids the way they need.

In a way it's amusing, but it's still tragic. You see all of these parents who get their blood pressure up over sex education, homosexuality, etc., and yet what do they let their kids do - watch TV all the time.

I've got a friend that I sort of upset/tweaked a few months ago - He was going on and on that kids need to be taught abstinence and morality. I asked him the million dollar question - "if you really believe that, then why do you let your kids spend hours in front of the TV every night watching TV shows that glorify the very things you despise".

When my children were growing up, many is the time they were upset with my wife and I, but since they've become adults, they've thanked us - I think it started sinking in with them when they were in college, and they saw just how little many parents really care about their kids.
152 posted on 12/02/2004 4:02:25 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

Agreement here. TV is, at BEST, a thief of time, and that is all the currency any of us have. And we have no idea how much we have to spend, either.

And TV is at worst, a brain and heart defiler.

And AFAIK it's usually both.

I have had a TV for about 1 or 2 years total in the last - hmmm, since I was an adult.


153 posted on 12/02/2004 6:44:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah

Put me on your ping list, please. Thanks.


154 posted on 12/04/2004 4:57:48 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: presidio9

"grinning open-thighed progress"

Am I the only one a little confused with the visual behind this phrase?


155 posted on 12/04/2004 5:02:49 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: TASMANIANRED
In Kentucky, liking sex better than basketball is considered perverted.

Then I must be a total pervert.

156 posted on 12/04/2004 5:09:57 PM PST by reg45
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To: pharmamom

Do you want the Moral Absolutes Pinglist or the Homosexual Agenda Pinglist? They overlap occasionally but I try to keep them separate.

The M.A. has a wider scope, H.A. keeps to the one topic.


157 posted on 12/04/2004 5:23:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah

MA please. And I agree with you about TV. My boss always asks me if I saw this or that TV show. I always say no. You'd think he'd have learned by now, but he keeps asking. All we watch is the animal shows, the history channel and the weather channel (of all things). Oh, and my husband is currently watching OU play Colorado.


158 posted on 12/04/2004 6:03:29 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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To: pharmamom

I like the weather channel. Now if only they had hour long shows about tornadoes. Yum!

But since I don't have a TV, I just have to read books, play music, work, and do other stuff like converse with mrs lj for entertainment!

Oh, and train the cats.


159 posted on 12/04/2004 6:23:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah

Every once in awhile, they do have half-hour long shows about tornadoes. My middle son, Max, is autistic--tornadoes are one of his obsessions...hence the weather channel. Why do you like tornadoes?


160 posted on 12/04/2004 6:27:33 PM PST by pharmamom (All I want for Christmas is a new Beeber.)
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