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Christopher Reeve, Man of SteelFWIW
vanity | October 11, 2004 | self

Posted on 10/11/2004 2:06:13 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg

I preface this short vanity by saying I am pro-life, anti-abortion, anti-stem cell playing-God...

I have a friend who worked on Christopher Reeve's latest TV movie which Reeve just finished directing.

Movie sets are generally bedlam, filled with chaos, complaints, back-stabbing and petty irritations.

My friend said this production was different -- a life-changing experience for everyone involved with it.

The direction on the set was altered to accommodate Reeve's limitations which, according to my friend, were unimaginable. Reeve had to show up before dawn hours ahead of schedule in order to prepare for the rigors of production. He was constantly hooked up to machines. He could move nothing but his facial muscles. He was never alone, yet he was all alone.

Throughout the weeks, Reeve was steady, focused and serene. No one argued about craft services or late entrances or slow lighting. Everyone pitched in and did more than their share -- willingly, gratefully, aware of the tremendous effort Reeve was making and of his constant, unfathomable suffering.

My friend is not a particularly religious man, but he said he felt blessed and humbled to witness Christopher Reeve's profound courage and grace.

His pain is ended; he's strong and whole now. May God comfort those who loved him.


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To: BellStar

Every person has stem cells in their body, in numerous places. In your bones. In your ears. In your throat. In your nose. In fact, they have found ways to cuture these cells, and any positive results that could come from stem cells would be best of all if your own cells were used.


61 posted on 10/11/2004 6:14:22 AM PDT by djf
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To: BibChr
Often, whenever anyone remotely likable dies, a host of FReepers instantly pronounce that he is in Heaven, evidently for no other reason than that they liked him/her.

Because that is our great hope Dan. And because it is a kindness. Much as some people seem to want the job, thankfully God does not task us with the hard job of deciding who actually gets the door locked on them. We aren't qualified.

62 posted on 10/11/2004 6:18:11 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Surfing this morning to find out more about Mr. Reeve, I made the mistake of stopping on Imus. His little sidekick was giving Mr. Reeve's obit and Imus interrupted with, "Brought to you by Bigelow Tea."

There was laughter in the control room while Imus' little friend went postal on Imus about interrupting. Not only will Dems use a dead man for political gain but they'll use him to get a laugh, too.

63 posted on 10/11/2004 6:22:00 AM PDT by Fayre Verona (It takes a Zippo to raze a village)
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To: BibChr; Dr. Eckleburg
I have to agree with BibChr. People often pronounce those who die that they have been made "whole". This was an interesting phenomenon with my mother when she died. Even though she was an exceptionally "difficult" person who no one could find anything nice to say and an avid non-believer, the response was "she's in a better place".

Not only did Reeves appear to have no belief in God, but his efforts to promote embryonic stem cell research was only because he thought it would help him. Sadly, if we are going to be true to the scriptures, you cannot get to Heaven without faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. About the only thing we can say is that judgment is in God's hands and he is before the throne. Just as we all will be someday.
64 posted on 10/11/2004 6:23:18 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Tuxedo

Totally agree, as you state it.

Apart from a clear and credible profession of faith in Jesus Christ, we have no grounds for assured statements of a person's afterlife destiny. But I've never either made pronouncements of the contrary, and believe them equally wrong. I only know for sure of three human individuals in Hell by name: Judas, Antichrist, and the False Prophet. Though there will be untiold scores of others, I don't know their names, and am completely content with that fact.

I am equally repulsed by FReepers who declare the glorified state of deceased folks who had no credible profession of faith, AND their confident damnation of them. Farthest I'll go in such cases is to say something to the effect of, "That's sad; he seemed to be a man who could not afford to die."

Dan


65 posted on 10/11/2004 6:24:29 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: HairOfTheDog
It is no kindness to foster the false notion that, if you're well-liked or do a few nice things (or many of them), that guarantees you eternity in Heaven.

Nor is there anything humble about putting forth notions about eternity that oppose what Jesus repeatedly taught (Matthew 7:21-27; John 14:6; etc. ad inf.).

Further, see my post just before this one.

If it is improper for us to pronounce someone whose life showed no trace of living faith in Jesus Christ to be certainly damned (as I believe it is), it is equally improper to pronounce such a person saved.

Dan
How Can I Know God?

66 posted on 10/11/2004 6:28:34 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: tutstar; CindyDawg; FL_engineer; supercat

interesting. It's not being discussed so much now, but Terri was reported months ago as having a bedsore.

Implications?


67 posted on 10/11/2004 6:35:44 AM PDT by cyn (prayers always for Terri Schindler Schiavo, her family, and her supporters.)
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To: BibChr

We all do the best we can in this life, and hope for mercy when we err. I see no reason to not hope that all have a chance. 'nuff said on my part.


68 posted on 10/11/2004 6:36:42 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; BibChr
His pain is ended; he's strong and whole now.

Really?


69 posted on 10/11/2004 6:39:45 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

I get nothing from that picture.


70 posted on 10/11/2004 7:33:40 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

I don't get it either.


71 posted on 10/11/2004 7:35:56 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: BibChr; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
I get nothing from that picture.

That's Christopher Reeve in a tounge wrestling lip lock with Michael Caine.

My point is that some people spend their entire lives breaking down traditional morality and then when they die they are eulogized as if they did as much for the world as Mother Theresa.

Reeves spent his last few years advocating the destruction of human life in order to find a cure for what ailed HIM. It may have seemed selfless to some, but in reality and objectively, it was selfish. He was looking for a cure and if it meant the destruction of unborn children to acheive that end, then too bad for them. He was not willing to let a fetus stand between him and his goalpost.

Joni Erickson Tada was quoted this morning as saying that most, if not all, progress in stem cell research has come from the use of adult stem cells. The only true value in embryonic stem cell research is in finding a way to scientifically justify abortion on demand.

72 posted on 10/11/2004 7:47:18 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: BibChr

It's from a role he played.... in the movie "Deathtrap" with Michael Caine. A great suspense film with a terrific unexpected twist that has now been spoiled for you if you ever see it.


73 posted on 10/11/2004 7:49:45 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: wideawake
He is not beyond criticism.

He is now.

74 posted on 10/11/2004 7:54:52 AM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

That was a very nice tribute, Dr. E. Thanks for posting it.


75 posted on 10/11/2004 8:05:18 AM PDT by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: devolve; Dr. Eckleburg
Nice post, Dr. Eckleburg. Thanks ......

76 posted on 10/11/2004 8:15:00 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; All
On average, you're all right. The world is gray, however, and not so conveniently black and white. Christopher Reeve was the sum of his parts.
77 posted on 10/11/2004 8:15:19 AM PDT by IAMNO1
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To: asgardshill
He is now.

I see. So it would be in poor taste to criticize the ideas and activism of Karl Marx and Jim Jones as well, because they are dead and therefore beyond criticism.

Sorry, but Mr. Reeve is not beyond criticism just because he failed to outlive his evil agenda.

78 posted on 10/11/2004 8:16:27 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I sure hope he was a saved man. Otherwise right now he is roasting in hell.


79 posted on 10/11/2004 8:17:57 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

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In the LOVE's White Light again...

http://www.SomeWhereinTime.tv

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80 posted on 10/11/2004 8:18:20 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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