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Obama, The Carpetbagging Senator from Illinois
One small Voice

Posted on 09/13/2004 12:13:40 PM PDT by 1smallVoice

I have heard Alan Keyes called a carpetbagger because he is from Maryland. But I have not heard Obama called a carpet bagger and this confuses me. Obama was not born in Illinois, he was born in Hawaii. I bet Alan Keyes was born closer to Illinois.

Obama's mother was a white woman from Kansas, his father was African, Keyes' roots lie in slaves brought here from Africa, sold into slavery by Obama's ancestors, yet Obama better represents Illinois blacks.

Obama was raised a Muslim like his father and his step father who moved him it Indonesia where he was raised as a Muslim. Keyes is a Catholic. Obama claims to be Christian, a member of the United Church of Christ, check it out, they are not Baptists.

Obama went to school on the East Coast and returned to Illinois to begin his political career in Chicago in the 1990's. He is a teacher. He worked to get Bill Clinton elected. They say Illinois is a liberal state and Kerry will win here.

I do not know but from where I sit Obama is the carpetbagger, not Alan Keyes.


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To: Ursa63
Just what we need. A f'n muslime in the senate.

Yep. Don't need no more darkies in powa.

41 posted on 09/13/2004 1:52:43 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: sinkspur

Agreed...the thread needs to be killed.


42 posted on 09/13/2004 1:52:53 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: sinkspur

OK, let us continue to hide the truth about Obama, how very democrat of you.


43 posted on 09/13/2004 1:53:14 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice
I can live with that and when I see God face to face explain why I voted for a carpetbagger who opposed killing babies. Explain to me again why I am wrong.

If I may. You are not wrong in voting for Keyes. However, the apology your spinning on Keyes behalf is intellectually offensive, and that's why you're catching the heat you're catching.

Obama is undoubtedly extremely liberal, and therefore bad for IL. However, there is no argument, none, zero, zilch that Obama is even remotely unqualified due to his residency. Ronald Reagan was born in IL, yet became the governor of California, but unlike Hilary, Reagan was actually a resident of California, and Obama is likewise genuinely a longstanding resident of IL.

You don't have to support Obama to be intellectually honest and admit that if Keyes has met the residency requirements, that Obama has met them a hundred times over.

44 posted on 09/13/2004 1:53:37 PM PDT by Melas
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To: sinkspur

11 Muslims killed almost 3,000 innocent people on 9/11 for Alla. Please explain how this thread compares.


45 posted on 09/13/2004 1:55:53 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice
OK, let us continue to hide the truth about Obama, how very democrat of you.

No. Let's lay the truth on the table about YOU.

You think Obama shouldn't even be in the race because he's a Muslim, and we can't have Muslims in the Senate.

You realize, of course, that there are plenty of Americans who don't think there ought to be Catholics in the Senate either.

See what happens when you pin your argument on religious bigotry?

46 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:30 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: 1smallVoice
Like how a non-Christian, non-black, Chicago liberal who has not had a real job does not represent most of those from Illinois.

Back to that intellectual honesty thing. A post ago you were calling Obama a carpet bagger. Now you're calling him a Chicago Liberal. Surely you see the logical inconsistancy there? He can't be a carpet bagger and a Chicago Liberal, at the same time. He has to be one or the other.

Tear Obama a new one over his ideology. Leave the sophistry to the democrats.

47 posted on 09/13/2004 1:56:52 PM PDT by Melas
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To: 1smallVoice; Artemis Webb
11 Muslims killed almost 3,000 innocent people on 9/11 for Alla. Please explain how this thread compares.

Huh?

Artemis, you gettin' this jive?

48 posted on 09/13/2004 1:57:32 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: outlawcam; EternalVigilance; unspun

Tell me what I'm missing here.


49 posted on 09/13/2004 1:58:44 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Melas

Keyes has satisfied the legal residency requirements required in Illinois. If Obama lived in Chicago 100 years he would never be able to represent me. Keyes could fly over my house in an airplane and would represent me better. If he is not breaking the law why do you care? Do you like abortion that much?


50 posted on 09/13/2004 1:59:32 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: sinkspur

My problem is that he will not admit he is Muslim and calls himself Christian.


51 posted on 09/13/2004 2:01:32 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice; Iam1ru1-2

Then it's his birth name, and not a taken muslim name. In that case, Iam1ru1-2 is way off base asking why he kept his muslim name. Casius Clay became Muhamed Ali when he became a muslim. If Ali renounces Islam, I would expect Ali to take back his birth name. Obama is obviously using his birth name, and I dont' think anyone would really argue against that.


52 posted on 09/13/2004 2:01:38 PM PDT by Melas
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To: 1smallVoice
"11 Muslims killed almost 3,000 innocent people on 9/11 for Alla. Please explain how this thread compares."

That is very true. Obama wasn't one of the 11 though. Your claims are all guilt by association. I don't like Obama because of his politics. You, I believe don't like his skin color or religion.

This thread needs to die.

53 posted on 09/13/2004 2:02:03 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: 1smallVoice
His Muslim father is also Barack Obama which means something in Muslim

btw, Muslim is not a language. Nothing means anything in Muslim [sic].

54 posted on 09/13/2004 2:02:54 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

Chicago is not Illinois. You have to live here to understand.


55 posted on 09/13/2004 2:03:03 PM PDT by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: Artemis Webb; Admin Moderator

I'll give it a third, kill this thread. I'm reading like I'm defending Obama, and it's not my intent. I'm just compelled to correct such extreme acts of stupidity.


56 posted on 09/13/2004 2:04:35 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Cboldt
Which is the better man for the office?

Is 'None of the Above' an option?

57 posted on 09/13/2004 2:04:54 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: sinkspur
Does Obama want to kill Americans?

Yes. He's already voted to. Now why don't you give it a rest.

58 posted on 09/13/2004 2:04:55 PM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: 1smallVoice
"Chicago is not Illinois. You have to live here to understand."

It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand

59 posted on 09/13/2004 2:05:04 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: evets

not cool. that's a garbage post.


60 posted on 09/13/2004 2:05:23 PM PDT by freestyle
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