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I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives (Rant alert)
Aw, Shucks southern News and Links ^ | 29 January 2004 | Jeff Adams

Posted on 02/02/2004 6:32:01 AM PST by robowombat

I’m Tired of Neo-Cons Being Tired of Conservatives

Okay, so George Bush has shown that his ‘compassionate conservatism’ is really socialism with conservative lip service. Bush has proven that he is a liberal with a thin veneer of faux conservatism covering the big-government, big-spending core of his true self. So what? As ‘good conservatives’ we should ‘remain focused’ and pull that Republican lever in the voting booth no matter what our lying eyes tell us? That is what establishment Republicans want their conservative base to do: “Sit down, shut up, and vote as we, the enlightened, anointed insiders tell you to.” Mind you, they don’t want you, the conservatives, the citizens that have remained true to the American Ideals of the founders, to think about how they are using you and are selling you down the river to special interest groups. The neo-cons that control the Republican Party today are hoping that rank and file conservatives will mindlessly vote for Bush, keeping their heads in the sand, until it’s too late and they’ve developed a new constituency to keep them in power. That new constituency will consist of newly married Log Cabin Republicans (gays), welfare dependents sucking up to the new government tit on the right, and amnestied illegals now eligible to vote (as well as more readily able to take your job because they’ll work for less, especially since you’re being taxed to pay their government supplementals that maintain their standard of living).

Establishment Republicans are coming out and trying to silence the uproar over Bush’s amnesty plan for illegals. The establishment types (neo-cons) are telling conservatives to keep it down and ‘look at the long view, the big picture.’ What crap! How many times do conservatives have to compromise their values, their beliefs, their standards? Why do we always have to give in but we don’t see anyone else giving in?

The latest in the string of ‘keep your mouths shut’ articles I’ve seen was on GOPUSA, by the president and CEO of that organization, Bobby Eberle. The title of his article was ‘Bush-Bashing Conservatives Should Focus on the Big Picture.’ I wrote Mr. Eberle to inform him that conservatives were keeping the big picture, that it was Bush who wasn’t. To me, Eberle’s article, along with all the other ‘hey conservatives, keep quiet about how Bush isn’t conservative’ articles are proof that conservatives and traditionalists are the embarrassing, if needed, stepchildren of the Republican Party. That in itself tells you the Republican Party is not conservative any more.

Given a laundry list of items, would any principled conservative vote for someone who: Continuously increases government spending, driving us deeper into debt; expands central government power over the states; undermines the Bill of Rights with bills such as the USA Patriot Act; cuts deals with other countries that undermine our economy via so-called free trade deals that only go one way (only out with our jobs and only in with products); wants to give millions of criminals (illegal aliens) a pass, thus not only blurring our boarder, but driving wages down and encouraging even more illegals to flood our markets in hopes of yet another amnesty a few years down the road? This is George Bush. He is no conservative. Why vote for a liberal in Republican clothing?

There was a political shift over the last twenty years in the South, as Southerners woke up to the fact that the Democratic Party had been taken over by socialists and no longer represented their interests, thus causing the huge migration to the ‘Party of Reagan.’ Southerners, and other conservatives and traditionalists, need to wake up to the fact that the Republican Party is morphing into merely an evil twin of the Democratic Party, and they need to migrate to another political entity. It could even happen this election year. The key is not which party conservatives and traditionalists are with, but that they stand by their ideals, stand on principle. The neo-cons have already shown that conservatives don’t have a seat at the table in the Republican Party, so why cast our lot with them?

Here’s something else to consider: Even if the House of Representatives kill this amnesty plan of Bush’s, and the establishment Republicans wink at conservatives and traditionalists saying, “Hey, we knew it wouldn’t pass, we just wanted to influence Hispanic votes by acting like we care,” don’t buy it. If the plan goes down to defeat this summer, once Bush gets re-elected in November you can bet it will be back with a vengeance, and the House and Senate will pass the amnesty plan. Nothing in the past 10 years, since the ‘Republican Revolution,’ shows me that the Republicans are conservative or mean anything they say concerning supporting conservative positions. No, there won’t be a socialist getting my vote this year, be he Democrat or be he Republican. As for me, I’ll be voting conservative, which means most likely the Constitution Party. I’m not throwing my vote away; Bush threw it away with everything he and the neo-cons have done for the last four years.

29 January 2004

Jeff Adams


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To: Sidebar Moderator
You, on the other hand, are dead.

'es not dead! 'es jus' pinin' for the fjords!

541 posted on 02/02/2004 4:41:47 PM PST by Johnny_Cipher (PATS CLIMB THE MOUNTAIN AGAIN! Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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To: OWK
You owe me several keyboards. ;-)
542 posted on 02/02/2004 4:42:05 PM PST by TomServo ("Why does the most evil man in the world live in a Stuckeys?")
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To: OWK
What happened to Mr. Low Key?

What did he do to deserve to get booted?
543 posted on 02/02/2004 4:45:22 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: dmzTahoe
Darn it, I'd like to know, too. When people get booted, then come back, it takes me weeks to figure out who they are (OPH - Chancellor Palpatine, etc). he must have called somebody MR poopy pants, or worse yet, a Colts fan.
544 posted on 02/02/2004 4:48:17 PM PST by Warren_Piece (Wake up you Sheeple! The Steelers fan invaders are a bunch of Statists!)
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To: Abe Froman
And just WHO is the " REAL CONSERVATIVE " , running for president, with a chance of wining ?

There is no reason for the president to change his political afrfiliation, but you just might want to rethink changing the political website you frequent. The owner of this site has stated that FR's goal is to reelect President Bush and vote in and many GOP candidates,as is humanly possible.

545 posted on 02/02/2004 4:54:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: dmzTahoe

As I explained to you before already, conservatives do not advocate electing Democrats in order to somehow defeat liberalism. If you want to advocate electing Democrats then kindly do it elsewhere.

546 posted on 02/02/2004 4:54:25 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Poohbah
Here's a question for you, it's precisely like the one you keep childishly asking everyone here.

Are you an imbecile or a moron? "Neither" is an unacceptable answer. If you don't answer, you are a moral coward.

(if you do answer, you are both an imbecile and a moron)

547 posted on 02/02/2004 5:01:13 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: nopardons; jimrob
"The owner of this site has stated that FR's goal is to reelect President Bush and vote in and many GOP candidates,as is humanly possible."

Without regard to stances on the issues or political philosophy? Did you suggest JimRob supports lock-step voting practices, and that issues don't matter, and the only thing that does matter is an "R" behind the name?

If that is the case, this forum is a pawn of the Republican Party rather than a check/balance for the conservative movement and those espounding the ideals of the Founding Fathers. I don't want to speak for JimRob, but I doubt that is what he established this site to be.

In fact, to quote the home page: "Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web."

548 posted on 02/02/2004 5:04:08 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: dmzTahoe
Obviously you don't read Jim's posts and have trouble understanding what I said in my post.
549 posted on 02/02/2004 5:06:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Tamsey
If you vote for the Oompa-Loompa, that is one less vote the Rats need to take the White House.

You mistakenly assume that my default vote would be Republican. It's that very kind of arrogance that sinks those in power every time.

550 posted on 02/02/2004 5:13:09 PM PST by Protagoras (When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
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To: nopardons
People like you and Cultural Jihad and the like will use JimRob's words in a twisted fashion to attempt to get anyone disagreeing with your views booted from the threads. You translate and misinterpret deliberately to remove any differing points of view that challenge your basic tenets. "He said this...She said that..." in hope that a moderator will believe your dribble and remove the impediment blocking you from your utopia.

Is it opinions that differ from yours that you fear, or the fear that your your opinions differ?

551 posted on 02/02/2004 5:14:40 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: dmzTahoe
Look, just because you don't like what Jim said, don't claim that I " twisted " Jim's words. I did no such thing.

That tinfoil is tied on much too tightly, if you think that I'm trying to get you booted off.

Did I hit the abuse button on you? Nope.

Did I add Jim Robinson to the header ? Nope; but YOU tried to and did it incorrectly to boot.

I'm not " afraid " of differing opinions and most assuredly, I am not " afraid " of you. OTOH, it appears that you are VERY afraid of me, my opinions,and people who disagree with you.

552 posted on 02/02/2004 5:23:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"I'm not " afraid " of differing opinions and most assuredly, I am not " afraid " of you. OTOH, it appears that you are VERY afraid of me, my opinions,and people who disagree with you."

OK, you win, I'm so sorry, you are so right...can I be like you when I grow up???

554 posted on 02/02/2004 5:28:45 PM PST by dmzTahoe (Go Zags!!!...#8 and still rising.)
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To: Sabertooth
"I've had an account over there for about a year now."

I'll leave that one alone, but it is tempting :-)

555 posted on 02/02/2004 5:29:29 PM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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To: OWK; Jim Robinson; Lead Moderator
Please come have a look at this thread.
556 posted on 02/02/2004 5:34:31 PM PST by nopardons
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To: MJY1288




I did it on a suggestion by Hugh Hewitt. Said it was important to have an idea of what the other side was saying.

Seemed like a good idea, so I registered.


557 posted on 02/02/2004 5:36:16 PM PST by Sabertooth (Malcontent for Bush - 2004!)
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To: nopardons
Mommy, mommy.
558 posted on 02/02/2004 5:37:02 PM PST by OWK
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To: Sabertooth
"I did it on a suggestion by Hugh Hewitt. Said it was important to have an idea of what the other side was saying."

You can get that here :-)

559 posted on 02/02/2004 5:38:11 PM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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To: OWK
My Goodness, you've been at it all day, is today a federal holiday?
560 posted on 02/02/2004 5:39:22 PM PST by MJY1288 (VOTE CONSTITUTION PARTY IF YOU WANT A DEMOCRAT)
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