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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: exmarine
"...Just go away, I am tired of your exaggerations and mischaracterization of my position..."

No. I'm a little disappointed that since you've been so consistent up until now in presenting your point, that suddenly you throw in the towel. Why stop just when a conclusion is about to be reached? Simply show me where my conclusions are wrong, and how your conclusions lead to another outcome. If that's possible. And by the way, you are the one who brought the nazis, the confederates and the slaves into the discussion, so I assumed you must be referring to how those problems were solved.
641 posted on 01/13/2004 1:29:20 PM PST by jim35
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Please do yourself a favor and actually read. It may make you appear less ignorant onto something of which you do not know.

What the hell are you talking about? My comment wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I was making the point that some of the anti-Bush rhetoric around here seems to be crossing the line.

Please do yourself a favor and actually read.

Physician, heal thyself.

642 posted on 01/13/2004 1:29:48 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Sabertooth
I agree Saber!
643 posted on 01/13/2004 1:30:14 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I have no problem with your voting choice that is your right. But do not come in here and post on a topic of which you have prooven you have no knowledge of. If you do not wish to read my fact based links then that is your right as well. That just shows me you are and ignorant person who does nothing but wished to shout to show dissention.

Your vote your choice. I have no issue with that.

Argue a point based on no facts that is a problem.
644 posted on 01/13/2004 1:30:37 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: Stu Cohen
"...I agree. I actually think this amnesty program is more harmful to American Citizens than a blowjub under the desk..."

Because it was all about sex, anyway? Thank you, Peter Jennings.
645 posted on 01/13/2004 1:30:46 PM PST by jim35
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To: ImpotentRage
When I voted for Bush I truly thought I was voting for a president who would represent AMERICA.

Alot of us here feel that way ;(

646 posted on 01/13/2004 1:31:00 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: onyx
Many days, the anti-Bush rhetoric posted here, is almost a word for word match with the DNC talking points. Amazing.

Do you agree with EVERYTHING Dubya has ever done or proposed, or are you a DNC-er like us?

647 posted on 01/13/2004 1:31:20 PM PST by kevao
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To: Dead Corpse
Tancredo will be my write-in candidate if nothing else.

For this, I thank you

648 posted on 01/13/2004 1:31:55 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Howlin
It is my opinion based on what I have read here, and judged by the criteria in the post you quoted.
649 posted on 01/13/2004 1:31:55 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: exmarine; Poohbah
The full text of the Declaration is right there in the U.S. Code. It's in the US Code.

A citation would be nice.

650 posted on 01/13/2004 1:32:09 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
The fact you insult fellow posters intelligence because they disagree with your world view, does not in any way rebuff your arguments or supplied linked websites.
651 posted on 01/13/2004 1:32:43 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: JustPiper
When I voted for Bush I truly thought I was voting for a president who would represent AMERICA.

¡Yo también!

652 posted on 01/13/2004 1:32:59 PM PST by kevao
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To: ImpotentRage; Pro-Bush; Zipporah
Your very brave ;)
653 posted on 01/13/2004 1:34:17 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: FITZ
Bush embarassed himself at the press conference yesterday...Fox ran the show
654 posted on 01/13/2004 1:36:18 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: looscnnn
It's called Hispandering
655 posted on 01/13/2004 1:37:35 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice; Texas_Dawg
I'm curious, where are you getting that Bush wants to give welfare to illegal immigrants? I think this is being blown out of proportion by the hate Bush crowd and misunderstood by many conservatives.

Remarks by the President on Immigration Policy

656 posted on 01/13/2004 1:38:38 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: Final Authority
I wondered what happened to Jay! I miss him at MSNBC! His column I mean.
657 posted on 01/13/2004 1:41:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: T.Smith
Also the imaginary job market ;)

I'm voting my conscience and voting either independent or Libertarian this year.

As Am I, please consider joining many of us writing-in Tancredo's name in your primary

658 posted on 01/13/2004 1:44:05 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Modernman; Poohbah
exmarine is lying because he doesn't know the US Code and assumes we are too dumb to know it too. I wouldn't even argue with someone who blatantly lies because you would have to call him on every so called 'fact' and it would defeat the purpose of this forum.
659 posted on 01/13/2004 1:44:13 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
"The fact you insult fellow posters intelligence because they disagree with your world view, does not in any way rebuff your arguments or supplied linked websites"

To call people ignorant is not an insult in fact I would take that as me not knowing of the topic of which I speak and to go out and read on it.

That is me though.
660 posted on 01/13/2004 1:45:07 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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