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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: exmarine; jim35
I will speak out against these evils until the day I die, even if that means I go to jail or die for for my right to speak out against evil. As Patrick Henry said, "Give me liberty or give me death."

Quite a martyr complex you've got there. Would you like me to bring you a big cross and some nails, maybe a crown of thorns?

521 posted on 01/13/2004 12:00:49 PM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: USNFighting31st
Would the thought of that have the Arab sheikdom shaking in their pointy toe sandles?

Wonderful calculating, but we are not the only market for oil. To me, this sounds like it may exaggerate the division between the US & Europe and other countries "over there" with which we hold common Western beliefs.

I don't know what the democrats have for plans. Likely because they don't have any. Clueless as they come. But to use the arguement of "we need this worker program in order to gain the Mexican vote so we can maintin political control and get cheap oil."

Come on. PANDERING did not make this country great. It sucked the life out of it.

522 posted on 01/13/2004 12:01:04 PM PST by m18436572
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To: jim35
How can the 'common citizen' determine the Founders' Original Intent, in authoring the U.S. Constitution?

The Federalist Papers -
523 posted on 01/13/2004 12:01:35 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: kaktuskid
"...IF YOU WANT CONSERVATIVE GOVERNMENT, VOTE IN A MORE CONSERVATIVE CONGRESS!!"

Your post was SO good, I had to re-post it!

So True!

524 posted on 01/13/2004 12:01:39 PM PST by NordP (Peace through Strength - W 2004 !!!)
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To: onyx
The choice is Bush or the democrat.

Yup. I don't like this but W can't always let me see the cards he is holding. Everytime I've gotten really upset with him he's come through big time. I think the plan could work if we really could find out who these people are, and seal the border so they only come across if we want them to come across. It would be nice if we could bill Fox for their health care, but I guess that ain't happening.
525 posted on 01/13/2004 12:02:50 PM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of AMERICAN anger.)
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To: m1-lightning
"It's a historic document, nothing more."

Are you off your rocker? So the oath by which I a former U.S. Marine and the U.S. President swears by is nothing more than a historic document?

Geebus I am begginning to get a little sick.
526 posted on 01/13/2004 12:04:42 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
George Washington was a RACIST SLAVE OWNER!!!
527 posted on 01/13/2004 12:05:40 PM PST by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of AMERICAN anger.)
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To: JustPiper
What Bush has done amounts to rubbing salt into an open wound when there was no rational need to do it.

Assuming that Ameriocan business needs guest workers, which is a big assumption, then a rational guest worker plan would bear little if any resemblence to what is actually happening.

I have two basic concerns about latin Americans coming into this country illegally: I don't want to have to pay for it, and I don't want them voting until they've spent 21 years in this country. I mean, I had to spend 21 years in this country before I was ever allowed to vote and I don't view them as better than me.

A reasonable guest worker policy would have minimally the following features:


528 posted on 01/13/2004 12:06:33 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: johnb838
He was the country's first brewmaster too, but alcohol was legalized in the early 20th century.
529 posted on 01/13/2004 12:07:13 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Texas_Dawg
Just a lot of your rhetoric and paranoid predictions.

Since you cannot refute or even intelligently debate the points I've made, I will consider this to be your surrender to facts and logic.

Be well.

530 posted on 01/13/2004 12:08:10 PM PST by Capitalist Eric (To be a liberal, one must be mentally incompetant, or ignorant of reality.)
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To: m1-lightning
The Declaration of Independence has a legal value equal to a song written by Francis Scott Key. Nothing in it's text can be used to construe law in the United States. It's a historic document, nothing more.

Your comment is simply outrageous. The declaration laid out the principles by which this nation fought and won its independence, as well as the earth-shaking declaration that rights come from God not men. relic huh? Then why is it organic law in the U.S. Code? And the men who wrote the Constitution certainly believed it was important! The smae men who said rights come from God also drafted and ratified the Constitution to secure the God-given rights laid out in the Declaration, and said so!

People like you scare me. You obviously have no regard for history or truth. I am biting my tongue here trying not to insult you. Please...before you embarrass yourself...stop.

531 posted on 01/13/2004 12:08:51 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Howlin
"you're busy trying to convince yourself and the rest of us that you're more noble than we are because you've decided that your opinions/beliefs are more important that the rest of ours."

I don't think that I am nobler than anyone here. I have a conviction, as stated, and I am upholding that conviction. I do believe it is more important for me to vote my conscience than it is for me to vote the way you seem to believe I should.

What you are suggesting is that I do what is better for "the good of the many, rather than the one or the few" according to your interpretation of the good. There is the problem, friend, I don't subscribe to your interpretation of the good. I believe that voting Republican or Democrat will both end up in the destruction of a sovereign United States.

"You claim we put party above country; I claim you put yourself about country.

Yes to the first part. I respectfully disagree with the second.

532 posted on 01/13/2004 12:09:26 PM PST by T.Smith
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To: AbsoluteJustice; m1-lightning
Are you off your rocker? So the oath by which I a former U.S. Marine and the U.S. President swears by is nothing more than a historic document?

You swore an oath by the Declaration of Independence?

533 posted on 01/13/2004 12:09:59 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Modernman
Can't win the argument, so you attack the person. Go ahead. I'm a big boy and I can defend myself. In the meantime, I will wait for you to show me the right to sodomy or privacy in the Constitution. Waiting...waiting...waiting....
534 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:18 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
Are you off your rocker? So the oath by which I a former U.S. Marine and the U.S. President swears by is nothing more than a historic document

That is correct. Please show me where the Declaration of Independence is recognized in the Constituion as having any legal status whatsoever.

535 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:20 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: Modernman
Can't win the argument, so you attack the person. Go ahead. I'm a big boy and I can defend myself. In the meantime, I will wait for you to show me the right to sodomy or privacy in the Constitution. Waiting...waiting...waiting....
536 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:22 PM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: onyx
"Bush bashing is nothing but masturbatory, and apparently we have quite a few masters at it here, and several at Fatboy's sewer. "

Ahhh I see the same argument that if you are anti-war then you must be un-American.

(For the record I am a former Marine VERY PRO-WAR)

Just making a comparison.
I WILL BASH BUSH ON THIS!!!

He is THE FARTHEST FROM A CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY I HAVE KNOWN!!!!!

His plan is ridiculous and pandering will not get my vote, therefore I will not vote because neither cantidate is worth a $hit!

There that is my voice in my non vote. That is my message to Bush...Shape up or get the hell outta the way!

537 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:25 PM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: T.Smith
Well, why doesn't that surprise me.
538 posted on 01/13/2004 12:10:36 PM PST by Howlin (WARNING: If you post to me, Tard and Buttie Fred are gonna copy & paste it to LP!!!!!!!)
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To: exmarine
In the meantime, I will wait for you to show me the right to sodomy or privacy in the Constitution. Waiting...waiting...waiting....

I've already shown you. It's the 9th amendment.

539 posted on 01/13/2004 12:11:33 PM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: The Mayor
Hi Mayor---nothing wrong with Dr. Laura. She is a voice of sanity in this nutty world.

Not that we need her advice though...

540 posted on 01/13/2004 12:11:36 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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