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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: jim35
You don't need to convince me to vote for Bush in November.

Dubya has a general mutiny on his hands and may not even know it.

WE R N TRUBL

341 posted on 01/13/2004 10:05:44 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Modernman
In such a situation, you should resign. If a public official feels that he can't do his job because his personal beliefs conflict with the job, then he should resign. Simple as that.

I see you left out my point that Roe v. Wade is UNCONSTITIONAL. The President and AG are sword to uphold the Constitution, not some judge's lame interpretation of it. Anyone who doesn't uphold the Constitution should resign. We are a nation of LAWS not men who can interpret those laws in any lame fashion they want. The President and Congress also have a duty to interpret and uphold the Constitution. They are obligated to defy the courts when the courts defy constitutional principles or make up new ones (like right to privacy or right to sodomy or right to not be offended).

342 posted on 01/13/2004 10:05:46 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Modernman
In such a situation, you should resign. If a public official feels that he can't do his job because his personal beliefs conflict with the job, then he should resign. Simple as that.

I see you left out my point that Roe v. Wade is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. The President and AG are sword to uphold the Constitution, not some judge's lame interpretation of it. Anyone who doesn't uphold the Constitution should resign. We are a nation of LAWS not men who can interpret those laws in any lame fashion they want. The President and Congress also have a duty to interpret and uphold the Constitution. They are obligated to defy the courts when the courts defy constitutional principles or make up new ones (like right to privacy or right to sodomy or right to not be offended).

343 posted on 01/13/2004 10:06:05 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: arm958
Jesus Wept. So, it took evil ol' GW to convert a life-long Republican to a liberal-enabler. I have freakin' well heard it all now.
344 posted on 01/13/2004 10:06:46 AM PST by jim35
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To: T.Smith
I'm doing it because they don't represent me.

So you're saying that the Democrats DO represent you?

Because that is exactly what a vote is about -- who will represent YOU; when you withhold your vote FOR SPITE, you are voting against somebody and for somebody else.

Withholding your vote from Bush IS a vote for the DNC, no matter how you dress it up.

Enjoy President Dean/Clark. And I'm sure we won't see you around here after November whining and complaining about the government, right, since you will have made your choice about who will represent YOU! Good luck.

345 posted on 01/13/2004 10:06:53 AM PST by Howlin
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To: B4Ranch
I did. The forfeiture of employer assests could be phased in over a 3 year period of time. That would allow the Bush guest worker plan to be implemented. At the end of that time if you employed someone without the card, lose your hotel, dairy, factory, farm, etc. The current plan is all carrot, no stick.
346 posted on 01/13/2004 10:07:29 AM PST by tomswiftjr
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To: Howlin
Anyway, he redeemed himself and our family name: he was one of George Washington's aide de camp during the Revolution!

WOW!

You must be very proud! Any DAR in your family?

347 posted on 01/13/2004 10:07:40 AM PST by TommyUdo (The Democrat Party-- Proudly Pimpin' off Po' Folk since 1964)
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To: Happy2BMe
Just as we all knew: there aren't any.

I've noticed one thing about you since you've been spamming all these threads: you are incapable of answering a direct question put to you.

I believe you're a disruptor.
348 posted on 01/13/2004 10:08:11 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Modernman
That's the surest road to dictatorship.

Following the true intent of the Constitution is surest way to AVOID dictatorship. However, as judges rewrite the Contitutional according to foreign and secular standards, and our rights are disappearing before our eyes, dictatorship is well on its way as we speak, but it will occur precisely because our leaders do not honor the Consitution. You have it backwards.

349 posted on 01/13/2004 10:08:59 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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To: T.Smith
The last time anyone voted with their conscience, Bill Clinton won the election and subsequent re-election.
350 posted on 01/13/2004 10:09:09 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: JustPiper
Unless Bush is holding some details back on his immigration plan...

Put a fork in Bush
351 posted on 01/13/2004 10:09:15 AM PST by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: exmarine
The President and AG are sword to uphold the Constitution

If the courts don't decide what is constitutional, then who does? Does every member of the government get to define his own, personal constitution?

352 posted on 01/13/2004 10:09:20 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: TommyUdo
Tommy - what are the fifth and sixth generation native Americans whose ancestors came from Mexico saying about Bush's new illegal immigration reform in California?

Are they for it?

353 posted on 01/13/2004 10:09:31 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Happy2BMe
I believe you're a disruptor

LOL. Never a dull moment 'round here. I swear.

354 posted on 01/13/2004 10:09:39 AM PST by riri
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To: onyx
*Sigh*

But if you and I don't post, what will he have to "say" over there?

He's like one of those little dweeb kids who never gets picked for anything and stands outside with his nose pressed up against the window pane, desperate to be involved, with nobody paying him any attention.
355 posted on 01/13/2004 10:10:18 AM PST by Howlin
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To: TommyUdo
Me!!
356 posted on 01/13/2004 10:10:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Modernman
"...He is (a Freemason), actually. He's never been all that into it, though. I hear he's a serious Stonecutter, though..."

No way! Really? Man, that is too funny! The black helicopter crowd is gonna go apesh*t!
357 posted on 01/13/2004 10:11:20 AM PST by jim35
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To: riri
Wondered how long it would take him - he's a bit tardy on this one - unusual for him.
358 posted on 01/13/2004 10:11:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Well, earlier in the thread you were acting as if it was set in stone

"Since when does a trial balloon become an impeachable offense" was my first quote on this thread. I think you misunderstood me.

#75

359 posted on 01/13/2004 10:11:58 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Well, earlier in the thread you were acting as if it was set in stone

"Since when does a trial balloon become an impeachable offense" was my first quote on this thread. I think you misunderstood me.

#75

360 posted on 01/13/2004 10:12:07 AM PST by m1-lightning (Weapons of deterrence do not deter terrorists; people of deterrence do.)
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