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Savage: Impeach Bush over immigration plan
WND ^ | 1-12-04 | N/A

Posted on 01/13/2004 5:54:13 AM PST by JustPiper

Conservative talk-radio star, author says amnesty is betrayal of country

In the latest indication President Bush is having problems with his conservative core political constituency, Michael Savage, one of talk radio's biggest stars, tonight called for the impeachment of President Bush over his plans to legalize millions of illegal aliens.

"This is the worst betrayal of our country in my lifetime," said Savage, whose program is heard on more than 350 stations with an audience reaching some 6 million. His book, "The Savage Nation," last year was No. 1 on the New York Times best-seller's list for five weeks. His follow-up, "The Enemy Within," out just one week, is already No. 8 on the list. Both were published by WND Books.

President Bush

Tonight Savage called Bush a liberal and described him as part of the "enemy within" that is destroying the nation.

Savage created the phrase "compassionate conservative" in 1994, a term picked up by Bush during his presidential campaign – a campaign supported by Savage.

"This is much more serious than dropping your pants for an intern," said Savage. "This is a policy that represents a danger to national security."

Savage is hardly alone in his strong feelings of opposition to Bush's proposal to offer legal status to illegal immigrants. A new ABC News poll finds 52 percent of the nation opposes an amnesty program for illegal immigrants from Mexico, while 57 percent oppose one for illegal immigrants from other countries. Both results are roughly the same as when the administration floated the idea two-and-a-half years ago.

But today in Monterrey, Mexico, Bush reaffirmed his support of the proposal, despite its unpopularity at home. He said it could help illegal immigrants "leave the shadows and have an identity."

At a joint press conference with Mexican President Vicente Fox, Bush warned that his government will not allow the existence in the United States of an underclass of illegal immigrants, but claimed again his proposal is not an amnesty. Amnesty, he said, would only promote the violation of the law and perpetuate illegal immigration.

Bush said his immigration proposal would benefit both the United States and Mexico as it recognizes the contribution of thousands of honest Mexicans who work in the United States.

For his part, Fox embraced Bush's proposal.

"What else can we wish?" Fox said at the news conference with the president.

In the U.S., the latest poll on the controversy shows at least twice as many Americans "strongly" oppose the proposal as strongly support it.

Opposition peaks in Bush's own party: Fifty-eight percent of Republicans oppose his immigration proposal for Mexicans, compared with 50 percent of Democrats. For illegal immigrants other than Mexicans, 63 percent of Republicans are opposed.

Bush reportedly will disclose more details of the plan in his State of the Union address Jan. 20.

Meanwhile, the National Border Patrol Council, which represents all 9,000 of the Border Patrol's non-supervisory agents, has told its members to challenge President Bush´s proposed guest-worker program, calling it a "slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States," the Washington Times reported today.

The agents were told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn't serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place.

"Hey, you know all those illegal aliens you risked 'life and limb' to apprehend? FAH-GED-ABOWD-IT," said Frecker, a veteran Border Patrol agent. "President Bush has solved the problem. Don't be confused and call this an 'amnesty,' even though those who are here illegally will suddenly become legal and will be allowed to stay here. The president assures us that it's not an amnesty," he said.

Last week Bush proposed the sweeping immigration changes that would allow the 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens thought to be in the United States to remain in the country if they have a job and apply for a guest-worker card. The immigrants could stay for renewable three-year periods, after which they could apply for permanent legal residence.

Savage cited a new report published in the City Journal by the Manhattan Institute suggesting there is a major crime wave in the U.S. caused by illegal immigration.

"Some of the most violent criminals at large today are illegal aliens," the report charges. "Yet in cities where the crime these aliens commit is highest, the police cannot use the most obvious tool to apprehend them: their immigration status. In Los Angeles, for example, dozens of members of a ruthless Salvadoran prison gang have sneaked back into town after having been deported for such crimes as murder, assault with a deadly weapon, and drug trafficking. Police officers know who they are and know that their mere presence in the country is a felony. Yet should a cop arrest an illegal gang-banger for felonious reentry, it is he who will be treated as a criminal, for violating the LAPD’s rule against enforcing immigration law."

The situation is similar, the report says in New York, Chicago, San Diego, Austin and Houston. These "sanctuary policies" generally prohibit city employees, including the cops, from reporting immigration violations to federal authorities, says the report.

"These people are destroying America," said Savage. "That's all I have to say on the subject. But you can talk about it. Talk about it while you can – while America is still a free country, because it's not going to last."


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To: putupon
"But who's going to clean the crappers in Crawford?"

Shoot, who's gonna be the Catholic priests? So few Americans are going into the priesthood (about half the number 30 years ago) that some areas are having to bring in priests from other countries, particularly -- hold your breath -- Latin countries. Apparently this is truly a job that Americans don't want now.
321 posted on 01/13/2004 9:54:27 AM PST by kegler4
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To: jim35
Same here.
322 posted on 01/13/2004 9:54:30 AM PST by Howlin
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To: T.Smith
So we can put you down as one of those "Let's Teach the GOP a Lesson" conservatives?

You'd actually turn this country over to the Democrats rather than vote for the only viable candidate we have?

Good to know.
323 posted on 01/13/2004 9:55:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Wave at the reTARD. You're being stalked. You're his *star* again. LMAO!
324 posted on 01/13/2004 9:55:53 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: B4Ranch
You posted this quote:
"According to a RoperASW poll from last year, 83 percent of Americans support mandatory detention and forfeiture of property for illegal immigrants, followed by deportation."

A better plan would be to forfeit the assets of the employers of illegal aliens. That would dry up the market for their services immediately. Without jobs many of them would leave without deportation.
325 posted on 01/13/2004 9:56:22 AM PST by tomswiftjr
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To: FITZ
I've wondered the same thing. How come Fox has such an hold on Bush? Weird, to say the least.
326 posted on 01/13/2004 9:57:14 AM PST by Dante3
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To: exmarine
The entire GOP are a bunch of spineless jellyfish. The rub elbows with those EVIL democrats (yes, I said EVIL!) as if they are drinking buddies or something.

A lot of them are drinking buddies. If you're a Congressman or political staffer who is unable to work with your colleagues from the other party, you don't last very long and are rarely effective. About half of Congress is made up of Dems. A Republican who doesn't accept that sometimes you need to compromise with them, isn't a very smart Republican.

If I were AG, I would not enforce any law that was contrary to GOD'S ETERNAL LAWS. This is a sin. If Ashcroft or Bush had any guts, which they don't, they would refuse to enforce abortion laws.

In such a situation, you should resign. If a public official feels that he can't do his job because his personal beliefs conflict with the job, then he should resign. Simple as that.

What are the courts going to do about it if they don't?

That's the surest road to dictatorship.

327 posted on 01/13/2004 9:58:42 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Happy2BMe
Can over 1,600 FReepers be wrong?

FReepers are representative of the far right of the country. So whether they're "right" or "wrong" is not the question.

328 posted on 01/13/2004 9:58:47 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: jim35
As I've said, I challenge anyone to find a single mention of my not voting for Bush in November.

I'd rather it be Reagan though.

Bush is a wishy-washy polititian. He certainly meets the criteria of a successful one, I'll give him that.

But he's the best we can come up with.

329 posted on 01/13/2004 10:00:04 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: TommyUdo; Modernman
Both sides of my family were here before the borders became "United States" ones!

Mine, too! We are Scotch-Irish PRESBYTERIANS; heck, we've been run out of half the countries in Europe!

Try as hard as I might, I've been unable to document my great great great great great grandfather's "arrival" in this country, so I'm thinking... LOL. It's like he just dropped out of the sky.

Anyway, he redeemed himself and our family name: he was one of George Washington's aide de camp during the Revolution!

330 posted on 01/13/2004 10:00:09 AM PST by Howlin
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To: AbsoluteJustice
I guess you haven't been listening to Hannity since this proposal was first aired. He has been consistently critical of the President for the idea.
331 posted on 01/13/2004 10:00:19 AM PST by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Happy2BMe
I challenge anyone to find a single mention of my not voting for Bush in November.

Why don't you link us to a post where you said you would?

332 posted on 01/13/2004 10:01:02 AM PST by Howlin
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To: AbsoluteJustice
"... It is ok for someone that espouses to be a christian to make judgement upon another and make such a broad sweeping statement to say said person is not a christian?.."

It's more than just ok to do this, it's practically required. And saying a non-Christian is not a Christian is kind of what we're supposed to do.

"...This is why people like myself are turned off by religion because those that claim it use it as a tool to place themselves on a soapbox..."

Yeah, yeah. Heard it all before. Now, get off that soapbox, and stop trying to tell me what my religion tells me to do or not do. Atheists, of course, never preach, do they? They never use anti-religion as a tool, do they? Spare me.
333 posted on 01/13/2004 10:01:40 AM PST by jim35
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To: T.Smith
...electing a Democrat in 2004 would probably stop Her Heinous from running in 2008.

Right, all the more reason to put any one of the 9 dwarves in the White House in 2004. /sarcasm

Frankly if she runs, she runs. Doesn't guarantee she won't win, even by a landslide. She may think she's entitled, but she's not guaranteed either.

334 posted on 01/13/2004 10:02:32 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Modernman
One of the reasons I decided to finally file for citizenship a year ago is the fear that, someday, Americans might decide to kick all non-citizens, legal or illegal, out at gunpoint.

Don't think that will protect you if some of these folks have their way--they'll just write in a clause saying that "naturalized citizenship doesn't count" or something like that.

335 posted on 01/13/2004 10:02:43 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Howlin
That wasn't my point at all. I wasn't espousing that strategy, just looking on the bright side.

At any rate, I do not plan on voting for Bush. I'm tired of voting Republican just to keep a Democrat out of office. I have decided that I will vote my conscience, which is to say that I will vote either independent or Libertarian.

Remember the heady days of 2002 when the Republicans gained control over the congress? We were all so excited about conservative principles finally being made policy. Can you tell me, please, which conservative principles have been enacted? Well, I can tell you about some liberal principles that have been enacted.

I'm not voting against Bush to "teach the GOP a lesson". I'm doing it because they don't represent me. If the Republicans don't represent me, and the Democrats don't represent me, then I guess I have no choice but to vote for somebody who does. That, to me, is voting morally and on principle.
336 posted on 01/13/2004 10:02:58 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: tomswiftjr
My concern would be the slow economic downturn of the illegals finacial situation. This would prompt crime, thefts, robberies and muggings, I fear.

By announcing what the rules are up front, they would know that if they expect to be able to export their belongings, stolen goods could not be included.

Did you read all of the post?

337 posted on 01/13/2004 10:03:23 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Howlin
Seek and ye shall find.
338 posted on 01/13/2004 10:04:03 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: Modernman
"That freaks out a lot of Americans- they don't realize that a lot of Hispanics were living in the US before there was a US. A lot of Texans, for example, don't know that about a third of the Texan army during their war of independence was of Mexican origin. Could it be that liberty is attractive to all people?"

Yes. One wonders which version America the heirs of the Anti-Immigrants emigrated to.

My Grandmother (born in 1862!) lived long enough to tell me tales she knew of "Old California."

There were also Mexicans very much in favor of the "Bear Flag" Revolt here in CA, too. General Vallejo, for example.

339 posted on 01/13/2004 10:04:20 AM PST by TommyUdo (The Democrat Party-- Proudly Pimpin' off Po' Folk since 1964)
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To: Poohbah
Don't think that will protect you if some of these folks have their way--they'll just write in a clause saying that "naturalized citizenship doesn't count" or something like that.

I fear you might be correct. I'm even doubling up- I'm marrying an American woman this spring, so maybe that'll give me more protection. Damn foreigners, stealing American women.

Oh, well. If the USA gets that whacky, I think I might have a lot of American company up in Toronto.

340 posted on 01/13/2004 10:05:38 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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